how big of a threat to the avengers is thanos without IG

Started by Dream Stuff11 pages

A) Knocking down Thanos is not the same thing as hurting Thanos. Was he woozy? Did he have a hard time getting up? Was he damaged in any way? If Thanos was not harmed, the attack was clearly harmless.

B) Thanos was dragging out the fight against Earth's heroes to make it more dramatic for Death. This is explicitly stated on panel and reinforced by "no duh" logic.

C) It's fair to say that Thanos stalemated against WM Thor before he got sick of fighting. There is no convincing evidence that either was "losing." That should make it clear how far above Thor Thanos normally is--Thor needed Warrior Madness AND the power gem to stalemate him. That's totally reasonable.

D) The times Thor has fought Thanos while not amped, he has gotten completely, easily owned. Period. He would be dead at least three times now without plot-twists to save him as Thanos stood over his kicked-butt. Go read the times Thanos fought the Avengers.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You're clearly dumber than I thought... Let me ask you a simple question...

Do you think Masterson hammer shot is more powerful than a big blast from Eternity? Answer that question to see just how dumb you are...


Its getting funnier. Was thanos actively using IG against masterson like when he used it against eternity? Or do you think that thanos can tank eternity's blast without using IG?

Originally posted by Dream Stuff
A) Knocking down Thanos is not the same thing as hurting Thanos. Was he woozy? Did he have a hard time getting up? Was he damaged in any way? If Thanos was not harmed, the attack was clearly harmless.

It's actually not a bad feat when Thanos was the most powerful being in the universe. Just saying.

B) Thanos was dragging out the fight against Earth's heroes to make it more dramatic for Death. This is explicitly stated on panel and reinforced by "no duh" logic.

So ? Nobody is saying otherwise.

C) It's fair to say that Thanos stalemated against WM Thor before he got sick of fighting. There is no convincing evidence that either was "losing." That should make it clear how far above Thor Thanos normally is--Thor needed Warrior Madness AND the power gem to stalemate him. That's totally reasonable.

Thor had the upperhand, and fought like a retard. Thor is a lot, but he's not stupid. He was more powerful than usual, true, but like I said, he was fighting like a retard.
D) The times Thor has fought Thanos while not amped, he has gotten completely, easily owned. Period.

Like when ?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Its getting funnier. Was thanos actively using IG against masterson like when he used it against eternity? Or do you think that thanos can tank eternity's blast without using IG?

So then you're saying he wasn't using the IG AT ALL in any way shape or form? I thought you said nothing suggested he was not lowering his durability.. i.e. she should have the natural durability of the IG... Since you say there was no mention of it being turned off or lowering his durability.. he didn't.. SO WHICH IS IT... DID he in fact lower his durability being that he had the IG and yet was still knocked down.. yet he wasn't even moved by a full powered blast from Eternity... Or he didn't lower it and MT hammer shot is more powerful than a blast from Eternity or any other abstract Thanos pwned?

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
It's actually not a bad feat when Thanos was the most powerful being in the universe. Just saying.

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So ? Nobody is saying otherwise.

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Thor had the upperhand, and fought like a retard. Thor is a lot, but he's not stupid. He was more powerful than usual, true, but like I said, he was fighting like a retard.
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Like when ?

Ummm it matters because if Thanos was 😛utting on a show: that implies he was dragging out the fight longer than it NEEDED to go for dramatic purposes... which is exactly what I've been saying.. HE ALLOWED the heroes to do stuff to him.. If he didnt' want them to.. the wouldn've have even laid a hand on him and with a mere thought they were been atomized.

He didn't fight like a retard.. he fought LIKE HE ALWAYS fights... ya know IN CHARACTER.

Originally posted by abhilegend
This is too funny.
Let me break this down for you.

Did thanos had the power to kill heroes via IG? Yes.

Did he any way or form suggested that he lowered his durability so that some heroes can beat him? No.

Are you too slow to tell the difference between offensive power and durability? Yes.

Does being a thanos fanboy rots the brain? Yes.

Him allowing or not allowing the heroes to beat him means nothing as long as there is no proof that he specifically lowered his durability.

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There is no specific evidence that he lowered his durability but there is also no evidence that e used the IG to increase his durability when he was not fighting the celestials/abstracts of the universe.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
So then you're saying he wasn't using the IG AT ALL in any way shape or form? I thought you said nothing suggested he was not lowering his durability.. i.e. she should have the natural durability of the IG... Since you say there was no mention of it being turned off or lowering his durability.. he didn't.. SO WHICH IS IT... DID he in fact lower his durability being that he had the IG and yet was still knocked down.. yet he wasn't even moved by a full powered blast from Eternity... Or he didn't lower it and MT hammer shot is more powerful than a blast from Eternity or any other abstract Thanos pwned?

He repressed the amp IG gave him, leaving his natural durability to fight the heroes. Simple.

So then he did A LOT more than just turn off his ability to know the future and what attack was coming next then correct? You said that is ALL the did.. now I have corrected you.. and he turned off a lot more correct?

Originally posted by godking
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There is no specific evidence that he lowered his durability but there is also no evidence that e used the IG to increase his durability when he was not fighting the celestials/abstracts of the universe.


Wait, are you implying that it was thanos' own durability when he tanked those shots from abstracts? This is getting even more funnier. Let me guess, nebula also tanked those shots from abstracts with her own durability.nutnut

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
So then he did A LOT more than just turn off his ability to know the future and what attack was coming next then correct? You said that is ALL the did.. now I have corrected you.. and he turned off a lot more correct?

That's the most reasonable assumption that can be taken from that scene. You didn't correct me at all, your point was that he lowered his durability below his natural durability and allowed the beatdown.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Wait, are you implying that it was thanos' own durability when he tanked those shots from abstracts? This is getting even more funnier. Let me guess, nebula also tanked those shots from abstracts with her own durability.nutnut
I said that when he WAS NOT fighting the celestials/abstracts he was fighting under his own durability.

Originally posted by godking
I said that when he WAS NOT fighting the celestials/abstracts he was fighting under his own durability.

That's what I'm saying all along.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's the most reasonable assumption that can be taken from that scene. You didn't correct me at all, your point was that he lowered his durability below his natural durability and allowed the beatdown.

Actually I said no such thing.. Quote ANY post that I made saying he lowered his "natural" durability. I said he ALLOWED the whole scene to play out to begin with. He CHOOSE to let the heroes even fight him and do a thing to him.. which you claimed was speculation.. when in fact, it was a fact you conceded to. This part of the argument is that you said ALL he did was lower his senses to see the future and what attack would be coming... however, now you have just conceded that this isn't ALL he lowered in fact.. the he lowered A LOT more to ALLOW the attacks to have ANY effect on him.. correct?

thanos presents lots of problems for the avengers

hulk and thor b last ones standing

He "cut himself off from all sensory input... I would retain limitless power, yet not know my enemies next move."

This is pretty clear. He was still insanely powerful and was a true God - above a God even - but he only dampened his cosmic senses, to make it more exciting. That's all he did.

For the challenged, Starfox later confirmed this:
"He truly dampened his cosmic senses."

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Actually I said no such thing.. Quote ANY post that I made saying he lowered his "natural" durability. I said he ALLOWED the whole scene to play out to begin with. He CHOOSE to let the heroes even fight him and do a thing to him.. which you claimed was speculation.. when in fact, it was a fact you conceded to. This part of the argument is that you said ALL he did was lower his senses to see the future and what attack would be coming... however, now you have just conceded that this isn't ALL he lowered in fact.. the he lowered A LOT more to ALLOW the attacks to have ANY effect on him.. correct?

I was going by on panel statements and I never said that he was at abstract tanking level in durability. It was already assumed that thanos lowered his durability from abstract tanking to his natural durability, claiming anything other would be retarded. My point was that he fought heroes not using IG, your point was that he could've killed them anytime using IG. Two completely different scenarios.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
He "cut himself off from all sensory input... I would retain limitless power, yet not know my enemies next move."

This is pretty clear. He was still insanely powerful and was a true God - above a God even - but he only dampened his cosmic senses, to make it more exciting. That's all he did.

For the challenged, Starfox later confirmed this:
"He truly dampened his cosmic senses."

This...

Thanos was not fighting under his own power. Hell, Thanos shrunk both Hulk and Drax...something that he CAN'T do under his own power. It's pretty clear cut that he was still using the gem to amp himself.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
He "cut himself off from all sensory input... I would retain limitless power, yet not know my enemies next move."

This is pretty clear. He was still insanely powerful and was a true God - above a God even - but he only dampened his cosmic senses, to make it more exciting. That's all he did.

For the challenged, Starfox later confirmed this:
"He truly dampened his cosmic senses."


That would be utter PIS.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
He "cut himself off from all sensory input... I would retain limitless power, yet not know my enemies next move."

This is pretty clear. He was still insanely powerful and was a true God - above a God even - but he only dampened his cosmic senses, to make it more exciting. That's all he did.

For the challenged, Starfox later confirmed this:
"He truly dampened his cosmic senses."

So then you believe MT hammer shot is more powerful than a blast from eternity or other abstracts?

Originally posted by abhilegend
That would be utter PIS.

see what we are dealing with? He believes thanos used the IG in it's entirety.. so does carter... JESUS