Thanos (HOTU)

Originally posted by Badabing
People need to stop with some of this bias. The Presence is God in the DCU. And since God would have to be beyond universal/multiversal constraints in order to create the universe/multiverse, those universal/multiversal rules don't apply. This means The Presence and TOAA are above the HOTU and IG in any universe.

This isn't just from this thread, but a few others. The best way to think of things is that The Presence and TOAA as being one, but different for each universe.

It's nice to stick up for your favorite character, but my patience with some people is about taxed.

see quan? He's above the HOTU so is elain cause she was the presance so was the great beast cause he was like the anti presance.

Originally posted by Reacting2
well in that case any Writer(Stan lee) is above HOTU, there I win

God / TOAA / Presence

That's it.

Thanos eats the rest, including Pre-Retcon Beyounder.

Fred Hembeck could beat Thanos(HOTU) 😄

TOAA,Presence,Primal Monitor,Mandrak and PR Beyonder..

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
God / TOAA / Presence

That's it.

Thanos eats the rest, including Pre-Retcon Beyounder.

Great beast is the Presance evil brother

Originally posted by TheMask
Great beast is the Presance evil brother

Just to note: Thanos did not absorb all of creation. Death and Adam Warlock both left the multiverse and escaped Thanos. Thanos clearly lacked omniscience as he didn't know about it until Adam Warlock came back.

Who created the gems?

Originally posted by carver9
Who created the gems?

Squirrel Girl 10/10

The supreme being of DC (in-universe) stalemates THOTI.
(if that's the Presence, then so be it)

In Marvel, only Classic Beyonder either stalemates or wins. (it's a debate)

Anything below gets stomped.

That aside:

TOAA & the Presence are nothing alike.

If I had to pin someone to stalemate TOAA in DC,
it would be the Morrison avatar in Animal Man,
or any other representative avatars of the writers/artists.

That's what TOAA is in Marvel.

Originally posted by Cogito

Death and Adam Warlock both left the multiverse and escaped Thanos.

Thanos clearly lacked omniscience
as he didn't know about it until Adam Warlock came back.

Adam & Death didn't "escape."

Adam wasn't absorbed due to him being outside the influence of space-time,
and also because he's intrinsically part, and yet apart from reality.
Thanos literally explained that "This saved you" to Adam.
Although Thanos also told him he could wipe him out right there on the spot.
Adam explained,
Thanos wouldn't do that,
cause he would want a witness for his grand gesture. (re-creating everything)

That aside, the second Adam appeared Thanos instantly knew where Adam was and what he was doing before Warlock told him.

It's just that Thanos absorbed all of space-time in a frenzy,
and since Adam is special, he would've had to single him out to join the absorption.

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Death on the other hand is also apparently not affected by space-time's demise.

I remember one of her alternates surviving after their respective universe was erased.

On the other hand Starlin used the reasoning of her existing outside reality.

Imo, Starlin simply had his most attached characters to Thanos (Adam & Death)
be part of the dramatic crescendo.

Which is:

Adam talking Thanos into re-creating all reality.

Death giving Thanos what he always wanted, her attentive affection via a kiss.

@ Mr. M, Thanks for saving me the trouble of correcting his lies.

You do know Mr M that a moderator says that The Presance is already above HOTU right? and the great beast is equal to the presance and elaine bulloc is also equal right. The only reason she couldnt fight the presance is cause she was one of his creations.

Originally posted by Badabing
People need to stop with some of this bias. The Presence is God in the DCU. And since God would have to be beyond universal/multiversal constraints in order to create the universe/multiverse, those universal/multiversal rules don't apply. This means The Presence and TOAA are above the HOTU and IG in any universe.

This isn't just from this thread, but a few others. The best way to think of things is that The Presence and TOAA as being one, but different for each universe.

It's nice to stick up for your favorite character, but my patience with some people is about taxed.

Bada in another thread there is a scan where an angel of creation who would thus be an agent of god indicates there are forces even outside of creation....

Is it really so wrong to think that even in dc the presence isn't the greatest threat when Angels refer to threats outside of creation.

Originally posted by Badabing
Batman.

Wrong. It was Alfred.

Originally posted by rotiart
Bada in another thread there is a scan where an angel of creation who would thus be an agent of god indicates there are forces even outside of creation....

Is it really so wrong to think that even in dc the presence isn't the greatest threat when Angels refer to threats outside of creation.

Perhaps he knows that BUT he still knows that the presance is above the HOTU.

Originally posted by TheMask
You do know Mr M that a moderator says that The Presance is already above HOTU right? and the great beast is equal to the presance and elaine bulloc is also equal right. The only reason she couldnt fight the presance is cause she was one of his creations.

Correct your OPINION which as we know your opinion is about as worthless as a rock in a foodbank.

Originally posted by TheMask
Correct your OPINION which as we know your opinion is about as worthless as a rock in a foodbank.