Kurse vs WBH

Originally posted by carver9
The Wendigo that gives Savage Hulk a consistent fight gets taken out of the fight with one punch by WWH. WWH being cocky makes a mistake and make a wish that amps Bi Beast and Wendigo 1000 folds (will post soon). Let's also not forget that Bi Beast has defeated Savage Hulk as well.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/7815932/Incredible_Hulks_631_011.jpg.html

They grow in size...humongous.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/7815942/Incredible_Hulks_631_013.jpg.html

Here we have Pak giving us an example.of what type of amp Bi Beast and Wendigo received. Bi Beast states they are a thousand times more powerful.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/7815949/Incredible_Hulks_631_015.jpg.html

WWH is schooling them.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/7815957/Incredible_Hulks_631_016.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/7815982/Incredible_Hulks_631_017.jpg.html

WWH punch them along with part of the City out of orbit killing them.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/7815988/Incredible_Hulks_631_018.jpg.html

Someone people say that after Bi Beast and Wendigo death, they lost the amp because they were normal size but nothing on panel states this. The wish was always there unless someone did a reversal of the wish by using one of their wishes. Death didn't reverse the wish because if that was true then why did this happen?

Fing Fang dies...

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/18/70848220.jpg/

He is transported back to Earth but still have said amps that wad giving to him by a wish (enough power to take over a planet.).

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/8901492/Incredible_Hulks_635_010.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/8901502/Incredible_Hulks_635_014.jpg.html

The reason Bi Beast and Wendigo size changed was explained here...

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/hulk.jpg

The Dark Dimension is capable of warping the size of whomever enters it if necessary.

Bi Beast, Wendigo, and Armageddon (all of them were amped) attacks Hulk and he tanks it without even paying them any attention.

http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g386/psychogundam1/hulk4.jpg

That is the gayest sh it I have ever seen. I am now sure that Kurse wins. What a bunch of crappy parlour tricks to make hulk look uber.

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
That is the gayest sh it I have ever seen. I am now sure that Kurse wins. What a bunch of crappy parlour tricks to make hulk look uber.

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
That is the gayest sh it I have ever seen. I am now sure that Kurse wins. What a bunch of crappy parlour tricks to make hulk look uber.

Unfortunately for you, the numbers add up to be above anything that Kurse can muster. This is why the Hulk would destroy him. It's all based off of numbers.

Originally posted by Stoic
Unfortunately for you, the numbers add up to be above anything that Kurse can muster. This is why the Hulk would destroy him. It's all based off of numbers.

How is it unfortunate for me? Is having an opinion you don't agree with going to give me lymphoma!!!???? Because that would be unfortunate and I would have to change my opinion.

It's pretty laughable to think that Bi-Beast and Wendigo were actually 1000 times their usual base. Amped? Of course. Good showing for WWH/WBH? Of course. But nothing done by them suggests they were so ridiculously much stronger.

Originally posted by janus77
It's still difficult to process the fact that Bi-Beast, Wendigo, Archeddon etc were ALL 1000 times as powerful as normal and they still got vaporised by mere backwash from a WBH attack.

I can't see Kurse even being 6-8 times as strong as regular Bi-Beast, so ...

They were not at that level of power in the Dark Dimension. And I'm pretty sure that Armageddon was never amped by the wishing well like Wendigo and Bi-Beast were.

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
How is it unfortunate for me? Is having an opinion you don't agree with going to give me lymphoma!!!???? Because that would be unfortunate and I would have to change my opinion.

Well I sure would hope that you didn't get cancer, but your opinion makes no sense whatsoever. They are comic book characters, and as such they can be however powerful the writer deems them to be. Kurse was simply never written to be 1000 times stronger than Thor, and he was certainly never 1000 times more powerful than the Savage hulk at base. Choose Kurse if you like, it is your opinion, I'm just here to point out that your opinion is wrong, and that is based upon what was written on panel in terms of the power stunt surrounding the feat itself.

If for example they were (Wendigo/Bi-Beast) 1000x base which we know to be true, because it was written in the book itself, and not some rabid fan based opinion, we then know for certain that Kurse is not in WB Hulk's strength class. The concept is really simpler than you might at first believe.

Originally posted by Stoic
Well I sure would hope that you didn't get cancer, but your opinion makes no sense whatsoever. They are comic book characters, and as such they can be however powerful the writer deems them to be. Kurse was simply never written to be 1000 times stronger than Thor, and he was certainly never 1000 times more powerful than the Savage hulk at base. Choose Kurse if you like, it is your opinion, I'm just here to point out that your opinion is wrong, and that is based upon what was written on panel in terms of the power stunt surrounding the feat itself.

If for example they were (Wendigo/Bi-Beast) 1000x base which we know to be true, because it was written in the book itself, and not some rabid fan based opinion, we then know for certain that Kurse is not in WB Hulk's strength class. The concept is really simpler than you might at first believe.

4xs stronger is beleivable....a thousand times is just fluff to try and make Hulk look like he is king of marvel comics. The writer went overboard to the point of beind absurd, but I do understand where you are coming from. A comic....well it is what it is....1000x is stupid, but it's on paper.

Originally posted by Hyperion Prime
That is the gayest sh it I have ever seen. I am now sure that Kurse wins. What a bunch of crappy parlour tricks to make hulk look uber.

anyway there is more. Hulk destroys 1 Planet and 3 Moons with just one punch.

carver post the scans.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
lulz.

anyway there is more. Hulk destroys 1 Planet and 3 Moons with just one punch.

carver post the scans.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
They were not at that level of power in the Dark Dimension. And I'm pretty sure that Armageddon was never amped by the wishing well like Wendigo and Bi-Beast were.

Naah, Armageddon wasnt amped by the wishing well...he amped himself off of WBH power.

Nothing was stated that Bi Beast and Wendigo lost their amps.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I love this. Carver post the scans. And you sound so sincere.

I corrected that for you. I can tell you made a mistake when typing that so I fixed the error.

Originally posted by carver9
I corrected that for you. I can tell you made a mistake when typing that so I fixed the error.

Ill stand by my earlier statements, I read WWHulk, and I believe normal Thor can hang with him just fine, let alone a being 4X his power. There was nothing in the WWH series that he did that Thor pushed couldnt do, and Kurse trounced him but good.

What is it with Thor fans that they so obstinately refuse to accept what the writers/directors of the comics/films state within such media, preferring instead to wank and take that wanking for some revealed truth.

Come on now, on-panel it's stated that Bi-Beast and Wendigo were amped to over 1000x their base levels. Base levels which hover around the Thor/Savage Hulk (lower end of the later, naturally) range.

On-panel it is show that they mean nothing to Hulk in terms of offensive power and that they have no capacity to defend themselves from Hulk even with their 1000x amp.

Frankly you guys should just go start your own comic books company with Quanchii and maybe put in a bid for Thanos and Thor ... then you can safely reside in a universe where nobody is more powerful than Thanos (save Thor, who always holds back so you can't really tell just how powerful he is, but he's like really really powerful!).

anyway, in our present reality where we judge characters based upon feats, narration and explicit statements by their writers/directors, it is a fact that WWH/WBH is thousands of times stronger and more durable than Bi-Beast et al and that therefore he is hundreds if not thousands of times more powerful than Savage Hulk (and so Thor and so Kurse too).

It's what's written and depicted. That is all.

Originally posted by carver9
Naah, Armageddon wasnt amped by the wishing well...he amped himself off of WBH power.

Nothing was stated that Bi Beast and Wendigo lost their amps.

Nothing but them not being as tall as building anymore right which went part and parcel with the amp they received or are you gonna go down the road again of them being shrunk when they went to the dark dimension? You know go and well we have plenty to suggest they lost that amp for you so to say nothing seggest that considerinig how many times me and other poster have gone over the same point with you is straight up lying.

Originally posted by SuperiorTech
Neither Bi Beast or Wendi-go retained that amp it involved size manipulation becoming Giant and if you believe Bi Beast a huge strength increase.When we saw them in the dark dimension they had lose the size no reason to believe the lose part of an amp then for no reason retained the other part.

And before you mention Umar statement about forms in the dark dimension she was very specific none of the damned souls retained their original forms and they were all transformed into small goblin like creature.Only one conclusion can be drawn from why they were they way they were.

Originally posted by carver9
I agree with you but PHYSICALLY, Bi Beast and Wendigo can get any Herald a fight in a physical.contest of strength.

I had this discussion with you and this was your response I know you have a problem remembering what you said week to week but I addressed everything you posted in those scans.

Originally posted by DTM
Ill stand by my earlier statements, I read WWHulk, and I believe normal Thor can hang with him just fine, let alone a being 4X his power. There was nothing in the WWH series that he did that Thor pushed couldnt do, and Kurse trounced him but good.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
They were not at that level of power in the Dark Dimension. And I'm pretty sure that Armageddon was never amped by the wishing well like Wendigo and Bi-Beast were.

Originally posted by janus77
What is it with Thor fans that they so obstinately refuse to accept what the writers/directors of the comics/films state within such media, preferring instead to wank and take that wanking for some revealed truth.

Come on now, on-panel it's stated that Bi-Beast and Wendigo were amped to over 1000x their base levels. Base levels which hover around the Thor/Savage Hulk (lower end of the later, naturally) range.

On-panel it is show that they mean nothing to Hulk in terms of offensive power and that they have no capacity to defend themselves from Hulk even with their 1000x amp.

Frankly you guys should just go start your own comic books company with Quanchii and maybe put in a bid for Thanos and Thor ... then you can safely reside in a universe where nobody is more powerful than Thanos (save Thor, who always holds back so you can't really tell just how powerful he is, but he's like really really powerful!).

anyway, in our present reality where we judge characters based upon feats, narration and explicit statements by their writers/directors, it is a fact that WWH/WBH is thousands of times stronger and more durable than Bi-Beast et al and that therefore he is hundreds if not thousands of times more powerful than Savage Hulk (and so Thor and so Kurse too).

It's what's written and depicted. That is all.

but it wasnt explicitly stated in the narration...it was stated by a character, which is arguable that its hyperbolic in nature.