Magik ports into the past, goes to krypton kills him while he is a baby or bfr's him into the end of time.
Hands the soul sword to photon who becomes solid light and cancels his enchantment.
Goes to cytorrak tells him she would be a better candidate since she is "darker" Brings him to limbo cancels the enchantment ala thor.
or thor does the same thing again....
Juggernauts get hurt by magical stuff. Cain with shatterstar's mystical swords, Colossus with Kurrth hammer blows, thunderstrikes blood axe took out cain's helmet, etc...
also can't someone mind rape him? how does he beat beings who are made of pure energy? (photon, x-man, etc...)
bottom line marvel earth wins
Not really. Superman has invincibility and speed on his side. And if the enchantment stacks on his strength then he can one shot anyone.
The only problem is Superman's character. He might not use speed all the time. This would leave Marvel Earth chances to bfr him.
Now make this a CIS off Superman and then he can win this easily.
what would a blitz do to energy beings like photon and shaman x-man? are you saying he owns marvel earth in less then a second? so magik won't even get a chance think and port?
she can take reed doom and whoever to limbo where they can plan, time doesnt matter in limbo so hours of prep will seem like seconds on earth. Strange, her, thor can will be able to come up with ways to cancel that enchantment. The soul sword and mjolnir.
Magik can go anywhere in space and time so once she ports out of there he is in trouble. She can kill his parents and prevent him from being born. With all the other heroes he has to face, I'm pretty sure Magik will be able to port out of earth in a split second. Shaman (alpha flight) and her can manipulate time so they can stop time.
how many bricks. intangible beings , magic users, speedsters , energy beings, etc... would he have to go through. Plus you have mindrape...being unstoppable won't stop him from getting mind raped. i think it would take more then a second to finish all of them.
how does he take out people who can go intangible? certain people can hide in dimensions and go to different time periods and affect him in ways that don't require a physical confrontation.
Galactus devoring the earth was enough threat for the fantastic 4 to try and stop him...no earth no marvel universe or heros. And since all of realities main focal point is earth well destroy it and everything is erased(or was that dc earth?) either way destroying earth=no marvel heros. with Juggaman Enhance vulnerability all he has to do is speed blitz the earth at near lightspeed and with the explosion will kill any remaing pest like hulk. no earth=no hell realm so ghost rider dissapears into heaven.
Speedblitz: As fast as Superman is, even going all out and blitzing in a very intelligent order, he can't take out everyone. There are too many psychics, too many super-scientists and mages, and at least one high-herald who makes him look slow (two, if you count Thor's thrown hammer). One way or another, Supernaut will spend the rest of his years on Marvel Earth in a coma.
CIS: I think I've asked this before but never received or saw an answer: what does turning it off mean? If the character is no longer limited by its own imagination or intellect, doesn't that mean it can fight in whatever most efficient way is possible?
Originally posted by Dream Stuff
Speedblitz: As fast as Superman is, even going all out and blitzing in a very intelligent order, he can't take out everyone. There are too many psychics, too many super-scientists and mages, and at least one high-herald who makes him look slow (two, if you count Thor's thrown hammer). One way or another, Supernaut will spend the rest of his years on Marvel Earth in a coma.CIS: I think I've asked this before but never received or saw an answer: what does turning it off mean? If the character is no longer limited by its own imagination or intellect, doesn't that mean it can fight in whatever most efficient way is possible?
yes but all he has to do is speed blitz the earth. with the explosion not many will survive then he'll do what barry did to sbp and beat them with speed force. even thor when he fought pheniox was overwhelming tramatized after he saw a planet explode due to his hammer missing phenix.
Originally posted by Dream Stuff
Speedblitz: As fast as Superman is, even going all out and blitzing in a very intelligent order, he can't take out everyone. There are too many psychics, too many super-scientists and mages, and at least one high-herald who makes him look slow (two, if you count Thor's thrown hammer). One way or another, Supernaut will spend the rest of his years on Marvel Earth in a coma.CIS: I think I've asked this before but never received or saw an answer: what does turning it off mean? If the character is no longer limited by its own imagination or intellect, doesn't that mean it can fight in whatever most efficient way is possible?
Originally posted by abhilegendSuperman is nowhere close to being as fast as Surfer. Thor has traveled 3 times lightspeed before. Show any scan of superman traveling that fast and it being STATED since you want to compare feats.
Who makes superman look slow? Surfer? You are welcome to compare feats, its not going to end well for him.
Marvel earth wins this in a stomp in atleast a hundred ways.
Originally posted by -Pr-No he is not. Flash has dusted superman plenty of times at speeds that surfer would put to shame. Flash borrowed speed to reach light speed instantly and superman was a statue. Surfer went hundreds of lightyears in an instant under his own power, no amp like flash had. superboy prime dusted superman at speeds that surfer puts to shame. Superman cannot compete with surfer in speed.
Yes he is.
Originally posted by country1000
No he is not. Flash has dusted superman plenty of times at speeds that surfer would put to shame. Flash borrowed speed to reach light speed instantly and superman was a statue. Surfer went hundreds of lightyears in an instant under his own power, no amp like flash had. superboy prime dusted superman at speeds that surfer puts to shame. Superman cannot compete with surfer in speed.
So you're going to diss Flash AND Superman by picking and choosing?
Superman might not have the same travel speed feats, but his combat speeds are AT LEAST just as good, if not better.