People have to remember, Quasar..............QUASAR gave a Watcher a good fight. Dr. Doom has jacked up a Watcher and stolen his powers (the same Doom that got WTFPWNED by Thor). Also that Watcher/Doom strained himself to bust IW forcefields and the backlash from her forcefield breaking knocked them both on their asses.
Now let's think about this for a second, would Odin even NOTICE Quasar? No. Would Odin even strain himself busting IW's forcefields? HELL NO.
Odin literally solos the entire field.
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Celestials strained against Sue's shields. Her shields are powerful when they need to be.Not saying Odin couldn't beat one, but some of those reasons...
Sue's FFs are hyperspace constructs that have killed a Celestial before. It's a weakness exploit. That won't save her vs Odin and that doesn't excuse Watcher/Doom from straining to break her FFs (since Watchers have no hyperspace weakness).
Originally posted by zopzopDidn't you use that as a low feat before for the Celestials?
Sue's FFs are hyperspace constructs that have killed a Celestial before. It's a weakness exploit. That won't save her vs Odin and that doesn't excuse Watcher/Doom from straining to break her FFs (since Watchers have no hyperspace weakness).
Ignoring the Celestials like you choose to do, the Watchers feat is Sue's highest feat when her shields have been broken easily by Glads, WWH, and Clor pushed her to her limits. You can choose to make it her average and make the Watcher's look bad like you're doing, but it's far and away one of her best feats. Does that make the Watcher's look bad? It shouldn't.
Hell, Aron dismantled MM before his organic abilities kicked in, and Uatu and Aron had a reality altering battle iirc where before hand Aron was able to summon high heralds like cannon fodder and make them do his bidding.
He might not win, actually, he won't win, but the reason's here are tripe.
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Didn't you use that as a low feat before for the Celestials?Ignoring the Celestials like you choose to do, the Watchers feat is Sue's highest feat when her shields have been broken easily by Glads, WWH, and Clor pushed her to her limits. You can choose to make it her average and make the Watcher's look bad like you're doing, but it's far and away one of her best feats. Does that make the Watcher's look bad? It shouldn't.
Hell, Aron dismantled MM before his organic abilities kicked in, and Uatu and Aron had a reality altering battle iirc where before hand Aron was able to summon high heralds like cannon fodder and make them do his bidding.
He might not win, actually, he won't win, but the reason's here are tripe.
Even ignoring that, there's the Quasar/Watcher throwdown that had Quasar put a Watcher on his knees. So it's not like the IW incident is an isolated one.
You honestly think Odin wouldn't blink and wipe Quasar from existence, assuming he acknowledged him at all? You think Odin would strain to bust IW's FF? You think Rulk would punch out Odin? You think Lunatik would kick him in the nuts and cause him pain? No, right? Ok then.
Originally posted by zopzopI never stated the Quasar incident wasn't a black eye on the rep of them, but the other two weren't exactly bad.
Even ignoring that, there's the Quasar/Watcher throwdown that had Quasar put a Watcher on his knees. So it's not like the IW incident is an isolated one.You honestly think Odin wouldn't blink and wipe Quasar from existence, assuming he acknowledged him at all? You think Odin would strain to bust IW's FF? You think Rulk would punch out Odin? You think Lunatik would kick him in the nuts and cause him pain? No, right? Ok then.
I think Uatu would blink and wipe Quasar from existence.
If IW needed to block Odin's blast or he'd kill whoever she's protecting... and it's written in a comic? Sure, why not.
Her having an impressive feat doesn't make it the average. Uatu would disintegrate her shield on average just like Odin would. It's when comic PIS comes into play that she's able to block this shit.
Rulk already siphoned the Odin Force from Thor... If Rulk went against Odin under Loeb... oh boy.
I would hope Odin would get hurt from being punched in the nuts...
I'm not saying Uatu would win, that's your reading comprehension problem there, and your ability to lowball. I'm saying that two previous reasons were bullshit.
I also like how most of these low feats aren't even from Uatu. Actually, every single one of them minus the Rulk scene.
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
I never stated the Quasar incident wasn't a black eye on the rep of them, but the other two weren't exactly bad.
Mind you, the Quasar one seems like extreme PIS to when a Watcher actually tried in comics, but I digress.I think Uatu would blink and wipe Quasar from existence.
If IW needed to block Odin's blast or he'd kill whoever she's protecting... and it's written in a comic? Sure, why not.
Her having an impressive feat doesn't make it the average. Uatu would disintegrate her shield on average just like Odin would. It's when comic PIS comes into play that she's able to block this shit.Rulk already siphoned the Odin Force from Thor... If Rulk went against Odin under Loeb... oh boy.
I would hope Odin would get hurt from being punched in the nuts...
I'm not saying Uatu would win, that's your reading comprehension problem there, and your ability to lowball. I'm saying that two previous reasons were bullshit.
I also like how most of these low feats aren't even from Uatu. Actually, every single one of them minus the Rulk scene.
Except the examples aren't bullsh|t. Quasar, Lunatik, Rulk, IW are less than insects to Odin. Regarding Rulk and OF Thor, OF Thor is no Odin. We saw proof of that when he beat Thor yet he couldn't overcome Mjolnir's enchantments (which were placed there by Odin). Odin would crush even Loebforce Rulk, unlike Uatu.
