Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Well, if we want to use only AvX and simultaneously throw out everything which occurred before it as it "no longer counts",
which, as i said in that other thread, is the most assinine kind of thinking i can imagine....
that said, on land ben has ALWAYS been a good match for namor. add luke here and team takes it. ben has given hulk a good fight any number of times, he's been said to be stronger than simon, has beaten a mind controlled simon and even went 1on1 for a prolong length of time with the asgardian destroyer. not to mention his showing against champion.
ben has some great feats out there. beating namor is certainly not this huge outlier feat. even underwater--while not the way i'd say the fight would go most of the time--it shouldn't be regarded as this uber low showing for namor. what keeps it from simply being a high feat for ben? and it's the height of stupidity to think namor has suddenly 'regressed' in the eyes of 'marvel'. it was one creative groups interpretation. maybe they just wanted to give ben a spotlight for once. in any event, we CERTAINLY do NOT throw aside all that has come before based on a most 'recent' depiction. that is both dumb and possibly disastrous. it is also likely against the forum rules.