Originally posted by iceman24567
Yes but in Lucifers case it wasn't a i can't judge you type of thing he went all out but was easily overpowered by a more powerful angel. If that isn't enough to justify people siding with Lucifer against Thanos (lol) oh well 😬
Didn't even the penultimate angel, Michael, lose his powers when his wings were clipped? I mean wtf kind of BS is that? Again, not impressed by any of the angels.
Originally posted by leonidas
then it's hard to make you understand how outside the nature of the character something as frivolous as 'fighting' is for some of those characters. you really should read some, and come to your own conclusions. it's much the same with sandman--though morpheus was admittedly less than nothing compared to lucifer. morpheus himself called lucifer perhaps the most powerful being in creation.
Then surely that powerful being must have something worth mentioning in terms of fights or displays of power under his belt?
Originally posted by zopzop
Didn't even the penultimate angel, Michael, lose his powers when his wings were clipped? I mean wtf kind of BS is that? Again, not impressed by any of the angels.
How is being described, multiple times at that, as the mightiest being in all of creation next to God himself not impressive?
Implied powers?
Ill give you powers he has
1. He scares the endless even death.
2. He can outsmart gods such as the rulers of chinese hell by blackmailing them
3. He was at ground zero of a multiversal level explosion and it did not hurt him.
4. He can cross the source wall at will something that darkseid wishes he could do. He does this so he can see all reality at once. The source seems like nothing to Lucifer cause he ignores it.
5. He outsmarted some demons who took the power of the presance by turning it against them.
6. He Shaped his own multiverse single handedly. He shaped everything. The rate of time. the suns etc.
7. He can kill immortal beings, including gods.
8. There was a type of hell called the house of windowless room or something were angels go when they die i think and lucifer was way to powerful to be there so his mear presance destroyed the place.
And these are just the feats i remmeber off hand.
He took away destinys book tearing it up. He was offered a army of millions and said I dont need it I am my own army times I dont know what.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
How is being described, multiple times at that, as the mightiest being in all of creation next to God himself not impressive?
Didn't the Watcher describe the Phoenix Force as a primal force second only to the Creator in power? How has that worked out on panel? See my point?
Originally posted by zopzop
Because implied power and hyperbole are meaningless unless they are backed up with something on panel.Didn't the Watcher describe the Phoenix Force as a primal force second only to the Creator in power? How has that worked out on panel? See my point?
We've actually seen on panel the power of Michael and Lucifer, though.
And they live up to the narrative.
Originally posted by zopzopThey have the feats that proved the implied power and hyperbole 😬
Because implied power and hyperbole are meaningless unless they are backed up with something on panel.Didn't the Watcher describe the Phoenix Force as a primal force second only to the Creator in power? How has that worked out on panel? See my point?
Originally posted by TheMask
Implied powers?Ill give you powers he has
1. He scares the endless even death.
2. He can outsmart gods such as the rulers of chinese hell by blackmailing them
3. He was at ground zero of a multiversal level explosion and it did not hurt him.
4. He can cross the source wall at will something that darkseid wishes he could do. He does this so he can see all reality at once. The source seems like nothing to Lucifer cause he ignores it.
5. He outsmarted some demons who took the power of the presance by turning it against them.
6. He Shaped his own multiverse single handedly. He shaped everything. The rate of time. the suns etc.
7. He can kill immortal beings, including gods.
8. There was a type of hell called the house of windowless room or something were angels go when they die i think and lucifer was way to powerful to be there so his mear presance destroyed the place.
1) Ok?
2) Ok?
3) The purpose of that "blast" was to CREATE, not destroy. It was a creation level event. What's so impressive about surviving it?
4) ......
5) Ok?
6) Did he provide the power behind the creation of the multiverse he shaped? Yes or no? If no, who cares. Reed Richards shaped the Marvel multiverse using Alien Entity's power.
7) That's great. How powerful are those "Gods"?
8) That proves nothing. Since that's an "angel only" type thing.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
We've actually seen on panel the power of Michael and Lucifer, though.And they live up to the narrative.
Originally posted by iceman24567
They have the feats that proved the implied power and hyperbole 😬
Originally posted by zopzop
3) The purpose of that "blast" was to CREATE, not destroy. It was a creation level event. What's so impressive about surviving it?
It takes hundreds of thousands/ millions of tons of pressure and several tens of thousands of degrees to create diamonds but somebody surviving that isnt impressive right?
It was for the purpose of Creation.
Right?
My grammer may be bad, but at least im not an insane little boy with naked thanos in my avatar. Your pathetic quanchi. Thanos dies 1000 times either fight before he knows what happend to him.
Why dont you go get a long thick purple sharpie and lock yourself in the bathroom and have FUN WITH YOURSELF.
Originally posted by zopzopIt is said that Michael/Lucifer are second only to god. Michael blew up his power released a multiverse in Lucifers face. Sounds like proven hyperbole to me 😬
Then why haven't they been mentioned? Even the stuff that is provided by Team Vertigo concerning their power is vague or symbolic.
Originally posted by zopzop
Then why haven't they been mentioned? Even the stuff that is provided by Team Vertigo concerning their power is vague or symbolic.
It's pretty clear to me how powerful Michael and Lucifer are intended to be. *shrug*
I mean, Lucifer just doesn't go around one-shotting planets or busting teams of heroes, not because he can't, but simply because that's not the nature of his character. He's not some grandiose cosmic villain whom our plucky rag tag team of heroes have to overcome.
If you want to look at his feats and write them off as non-impressive, that's your perogative, but it's pretty obvious to a lot of people here that both the angelic brothers operate on a completely different level than someone like Thanos.
Originally posted by Gecko4lif
How can you type that and not feel absolutely stupid
Originally posted by zopzopSo you think tanking a multiverse level big bang is unimpressive?
What was the purpose of that multiversal blast? To CREATE right? Michael is the Demiurge and has the power to create. That's his whole shtick. So you can stfu if you have nothing of substance to add to this discussion.
Originally posted by iceman24567
It is said that Michael/Lucifer are second only to god. Michael blew up his power released a multiverse in Lucifers face. Sounds like proven hyperbole to me 😬
Michale is the Demiurge. That's why "surviving" that blast is meaningless. It's purpose was to CREATE not destroy.
PS the "second to God" stuff has already been disproved. It's a meaningless statement.