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616 IG Thanos stomps Erishkigel!
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Also, Erishkigal is getting hyped up here lovely based on "power descriptions" in a handbook.
Erishkigal was never a threat to the LT,
and would never have been able to beat the LT.
In fact, with the Starbrand alone, the LT didn't even notice Erishkigel.
In fact, with the Starbrand alone, EK was NOT a Multiversal power,
and certainly not a 'megaversal' power either.
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First:
Erishkigel (with Starbrand) has to expend "vast amounts of energy"
just to open a portal to another dimension:
I know many cats that can do this easily, who aren't near even universal level.
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Second:
Erishkigel (with Starbrand) never had any kind of cosmic awareness,
and she also has no sense of placement when she exits her reality:
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Third:
Erishkigel (with Starbrand) wanted to affect the Multiverse.
These are the Stipulations:
She needed to be in the Nexus of all Realities (contains portals into every universe)
She needed to "shift the Cosmic Axis" (only possible within said Nexus)
She needed to merge with the power of 8 Nexus Guardians in order to accomplish that
This is what actually got the LT's attention, once she merged with the Guardians:
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Finally:
We can see Starbrand/Erishkigel without assistance, isn't all she's cracked up to be.
As far as Erishkigel (Starbrand) (and amped by the Nexus Guardians) having a chance against the LT:
The LT felt she may be a "potential peer to the abstract Entities"
But could not "withstand the power of the Living Tribunal"
Why do people keep saying the IG is only universal... when it has feats that are AT LEAST multi-universal... Magus merged two universes together while in a totally separate universe... That is effecting more than one universe... Thanos on panel narration once he wiped up on everybody... I am god of this universe and all universeS.. seems pretty clear to me.... The UN is a multiversal weapon... the IG pwned it with utter ease... Shit... even individual gems have effected the multiverse...
Originally posted by Mr Master
==========================616 IG Thanos stomps Erishkigel!
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Also, Erishkigal is getting hyped up here lovely based on "power descriptions" in a handbook.
Erishkigal was never a threat to the LT,
and would never have been able to beat the LT.In fact, with the Starbrand alone, the LT didn't even notice Erishkigel.
In fact, with the Starbrand alone, EK was NOT a Multiversal power,
and certainly not a 'megaversal' power either.-------------------------------------------------------------
First:
Erishkigel (with Starbrand) has to expend "vast amounts of energy"
just to open a portal to another dimension:I know many cats that can do this easily, who aren't near even universal level.
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Second:
Erishkigel (with Starbrand) never had any kind of cosmic awareness,
and she also has no sense of placement when she exits her reality:-------------------------------------------------------------
Third:
Erishkigel (with Starbrand) wanted to affect the Multiverse.
These are the [b]Stipulations
:She needed to be in the Nexus of all Realities (contains portals into every universe)
She needed to "shift the Cosmic Axis" (only possible within said Nexus)
She needed to merge with the power of 8 Nexus Guardians in order to accomplish that
This is what actually got the LT's attention, once she merged with the Guardians:
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Finally:
We can see Starbrand/Erishkigel without assistance, isn't all she's cracked up to be.
As far as Erishkigel (Starbrand) (and amped by the Nexus Guardians) having a chance against the LT:
The LT felt she may be a "potential peer to the abstract Entities"
But could not "withstand the power of the Living Tribunal" [/B]
That is why the OP specifically states she has the power of the Startbrand and the full backing of the Congress of Realities(I presume those are the 8 Nexus Guardians referenced in your scans?) , as was the case in Quasar#49-50. I agree that on its , the Starbrand can't possibly match the power of classic IG . Although its worth asking why the LT didn't merely deactivate the power of the Starbrand like he did with the IG , and instead "disposed" of it by returning it to Kayla .
And then in Quasar#57 , why did the LT just erect a mere barrier to prevent the Starbrand energy from infecting 616 ? Again, in this case , why didn't he just deactivate its powers ? Also , could he not just erase it from existence ? Is it important , in some way , to maintain the multiversal balance ? These questions , imo , are definitely worth asking .
And if there's anyone who can give definitive answers , I think its you , MrMaster .
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Why do people keep saying the IG is only universal... when it has feats that are AT LEAST multi-universal... Magus merged two universes together while in a totally separate universe... That is effecting more than one universe... Thanos on panel narration once he wiped up on everybody... I am god of this universe and all universeS.. seems pretty clear to me.... The UN is a multiversal weapon... the IG pwned it with utter ease... Shit... even individual gems have effected the multiverse...
Didn't the Magus do that(merging 2 universes) with CCUs ?
As far as it being multiversal , considering the fact that it was able to redirect a UN(a device which has been confirmed as having a multiversal level of power) blast back onto the blaster(Quasar) , along with the fact that the LT deemed Warlock(while in possession of the IG) to be a threat to more than just the universe(LT didn't consider Thanos such a threat , so its only logical that Warlock could threaten the multiversal balance of power somehow) , and further coupled with the fact that the IG functioned perfectly within the Malibu universe , I believe classic IG was possibly multiversal .
However , we are only talking about range of power here , not the potential energy/power output . For example , a 0.50 caliber speer round has a higher range than a 0.50 caliber Barnes round , yet the Barnes round has a much higher energy output and can cause more damage with its shorter range .
So , even if the IG has only a universal range , that means nothing , as it is still above guys like Odin who has shown a multiversal scale of power(even if it was a one-time occurance) in his battle with Seth .
Originally posted by TheGodKillerAlthough its worth asking why the LT didn't merely deactivate the power of the Starbrand
like he did with the IG ,
instead "disposed" of it by returning it to Kayla .And then in Quasar#57 , why did the LT just erect a mere barrier to
prevent the Starbrand energy from infecting 616 ? Again, in this case ,
why didn't he just deactivate its powers ?Also , could he not just erase it from existence ?
Is it important , in some way , to maintain the multiversal balance ?These questions , imo , are definitely worth asking .
And if there's anyone who can give definitive answers ,
I think its you , MrMaster .
The Starbrand is of another Multiverse (the one that contains the New Universe)
In that Multiverse, it is the most powerful energy source.
It appears that when beings/objects from other Multiversal systems enter the 616 Multiverse,
the LT is not allowed to act against it directly.
This happened in the Rune case
who entered 616 from the Multiverse that houses the Ultraverse.
It was stated on panel, that while the LT can defeat these powers,
he can't act.
So the LT dispatches these anomalies in mysterious ways
and also creates barriers around them so that they won't unbalance Chaos/Order.
Basically ...
The 616 Multiverse contains a certain amount of overall power
(LT and everything within Eternity/Infinity and the pocket dimensions outside them)
This a closed Multiversal system. It is balanced by all power within being accounted for.
It is the most powerful system in the Omniverse.
If too much power is being harnessed by an essence originating from outside this Multiversal system,
it will disrupt the harmony of energy/power,
causing an unbalance and potential collapse if left unchecked.
Originally posted by Mr Master
I'll get the scans later from my dvds, but here's a brief explanation.The Starbrand is of another Multiverse (the one that contains the New Universe)
In that Multiverse, it is the most powerful energy source.It appears that when beings/objects from other Multiversal systems enter the 616 Multiverse,
the LT is not allowed to act against it directly.This happened in the Rune case
who entered 616 from the Multiverse that houses the Ultraverse.It was stated on panel, that while the LT can defeat these powers,
he can't act.So the LT dispatches these anomalies in mysterious ways
and also creates barriers around them so that they won't unbalance Chaos/Order.Basically ...
The 616 Multiverse contains a certain amount of overall power
(LT and everything within Eternity/Infinity and the pocket dimensions outside them)This a closed Multiversal system. It is balanced by all power within being accounted for.
It is the most powerful system in the Omniverse.If too much power is being harnessed by an essence originating from outside this Multiversal system,
it will disrupt the harmony of energy/power,
causing an unbalance and potential collapse if left unchecked.
I'll take your word for it . However , if you want to show the scans , feel free to do so .
Originally posted by TheGodKillerDidn't the Magus do that(merging 2 universes) with CCUs ?
This process would have taken hours.
When Magus acquired the incomplete IG,
he not only merged both Universes in an instant,
but he also did this while standing in another separate Universe he was controlling.
That's at the very least, Multi-Universal control (3 realities)
What happened in the Ultraverse, when Nemesis was dispersed,
the rest of the Gems gained sentience and some blew out as waves of creation,
thus (power/soul/space/mind) were creating Universes back to back,
one on top of the other.
This astral soup of madness was going to destroy "All Realities"
but the Time & Reality Gems (with help from Sersi who had a gem prior) nullified everything,
and finally created a single working new Ultraverse.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Magus created a duplicate 616 Universe with the CCUs,
then he began to merge both Realities together with the CCUs.This process would have taken hours.
When Magus acquired the incomplete IG,
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he not only [b]merged both Universes in an instant
but he also did this while standing in another separate Universe he was controlling. [/B]
That is indeed impressive , considering the fact that he didn't even have the Reality Gem , when he did this .
Originally posted by TheGodKillerThis thread belongs to Thanos. Create another thread if you want me to answer. People don't dictate my off topic rants only I do. Well, and delph as you see we're attached.
And my question is also about Thanos VS Erishkigal .It pertains to this thread .I never said you're not on-topic . However , I too am not off-topic with my question .
Originally posted by quanchi112
This thread belongs to Thanos. Create another thread if you want me to answer. People don't dictate my off topic rants only I do. Well, and delph as you see we're attached.
This thread belongs to Thanos AND Erishkigal . My question pertains to Thanos and Ershikigal . It is on topic . So , I am not going to bother to create another thread for you to answer . If you don't have the guts to answer my question , then admit it straight up like a man . Otherwise , quit whining with the lame excuse of "off-topic" .
Originally posted by TheGodKillerThanos wins this thread. I won't fall for your against the rules let's derail the thread kind of tricks. Thanos wins this thread hands down.
This thread belongs to Thanos AND Erishkigal . My question pertains to Thanos and Ershikigal . It is on topic . So , I am not going to bother to create another thread for you to answer . If you don't have the guts to answer my question , then admit it straight up like a man . Otherwise , quit whining with the lame excuse of "off-topic" .
Re: Erishkigal VS Thanos
Erishkigal is going to lose because she is going to fight in Thanos' realm. The IG has sway over the 616 Universe.
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Erishkigal has the full power of the Starbrand , and the complete backing of the Congress of Realities (Quasar #49-50) .Thanos has the IG as it appeared in the Infinity Gauntlet Saga.
Battle is set in the 616-Universe . Fight is to death .
Which of these 2 cosmically super-enhanced , ultra-powerful Deviant Gods , is standing still at the end of the conflict ?
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos wins this thread. I won't fall for your against the rules let's derail the thread kind of tricks. Thanos wins this thread hands down.
That's you opinion . And I don't have any "against the rules let's derail the thread kind of tricks" up my sleeve for which you would fall . As I said before , if you don't have the guts to answer my question then admit it straight up like a man . Else quit whining with the silly off-topic/derail the thread excuses .
Originally posted by TheGodKillerI debate the proper threads in the proper threads. Thanos wins.
That's you opinion . And I don't have any "against the rules let's derail the thread kind of tricks" up my sleeve for which you would fall . As I said before , if you don't have the guts to answer my question then admit it straight up like a man . Else quit whining with the silly off-topic/derail the thread excuses .
People are seriously underestimating the Starbrand.
Here is Erishkigal manipulating Order/Chaos in the LT's face and all he can do is yell at her to stop :
Remember when Warlock with the IG threw around the Cosmic Court like ragdolls (except for the LT), he restored order to his court with a snap of his fingers. Yet here, where Erishkigal is actually upsetting cosmic balance by toying with Order/Chaos, he doesn't(can't?) undo anything and tells her to stop.
Here he, the Living Tribunal, is threatening to summon the greatest powers in the multiverse to deal with Erishkigal if she doesn't desist :
Why would he do that if he could pwn her himself?
I actually think Erishkigal got this and with only moderate difficulty too, she doesn't need the Congress, adding them is overkill.
