Originally posted by steverules_2
No but the fact still remains that he was cornered and screwed. It's not annoying, it's just fact. For all I know you may not have seen it. Cap did face a lotta people with that tech yes, fact is he still got shot in Avengers though and a shoulder canon is more powerful than the weapoms used there. If Cap loses the shield he's screwed, you said the pred has his claws yes? So whats cap gonna do then? And the spear as well. Cap seems very outmatched. Just give pred his claws, be more even then.
Its annoying to me. Can we get over it? Yes the plasma canon is more powerful than those weapons the chitauri used, and? The shield still deflected stuff much more powerful and he is facing just one predator, not numerous predators shooting from all sides. What is so hard to understand about that? I see Cap having no problem blocking Predator's shots. The spear is something else entirely, and the shield can still block and Cap can still dodge it. The claws are there because I think the Predator will need at least a melee weapon to contend with the shield for when Cap closes the distance--if he gets to close it. Cool you think Cap is very outmatched; I don't.
So anyway lets go with just claws, who wins?
You're assuming that all Predators are equal in combat prowess. AvP and AvP:R show that that's simply not true.
We never saw any feats from that Predator except the fight with the Yakuza guy. Wolf on the other hands was clearly superhuman and a total badass. He has feats to back him up. Besides, if Cap chucks that shield, Wolf either knocks it out of the way, catches it, or just dodges and let's it fall.
Originally posted by KingD19
You're assuming that all Predators are equal in combat prowess. AvP and AvP:R show that that's simply not true.We never saw any feats from that Predator except the fight with the Yakuza guy. Wolf on the other hands was clearly superhuman and a total badass. He has feats to back him up. Besides, if Cap chucks that shield, Wolf either knocks it out of the way, catches it, or just dodges and let's it fall.
True but the Predators in Predators were physically more imposing than the regular ones we're used to, or at least that is how they tried to portray them in the movie.
Wolf is a fkn badass. I am glad he beat the shit out of dozens of xenomoprhs. The first movie pissed me off with how lame the newbie predators were.
Originally posted by Zack Fair
True but the Predators in Predators where physically more imposing than the regular ones we're used to, or at least that is how they tried to portray them in the movie.Wolf is a fkn badass. I am glad he beat the shit out of dozens of xenomoprhs. The first movie pissed me off with how lame the newbie predators were.
Well they showed 2 types of Predators; the bad ones and the one that Brody found at the end. The bad ones seemed slightly larger than Wolf and the Commander in AvP who took down the Alien Queen. And the other one looked smaller. The big ones though didn't show anything Wolf or Scar(I think that was his name) couldn't do, and Wolf/Scar definitely had the skill edge and better feats.
And yeah, Wolf was basically a cleaner. They called him in when situations were hopeless and they needed the best.
As for the noobies. They were on their first hunt. No matter how much training you go through, your first real battle is overwhelming. That's true in any society or war.
Originally posted by the ninjak
Cap ain't holding a gun so Wolf will face him in close combat. It's the only natural solution.To use lasers or nets would be dishonorable.
Doesn't matter if Wolf goes in close quarters, he still wins. He has his claws, his spear, and possibly his wrist blades. All Cap has is his shield, which is fine and dandy, but Wolf is skilled enough to work his way past the shield, or get Cap to throw it. Once he throws it, he's phucked.
Originally posted by Zack Fair
Its annoying to me. Can we get over it? Yes the plasma canon is more powerful than those weapons the chitauri used, and? The shield still deflected stuff much more powerful and he is facing just one predator, not numerous predators shooting from all sides. What is so hard to understand about that? I see Cap having no problem blocking Predator's shots. The spear is something else entirely, and the shield can still block and Cap can still dodge it. The claws are there because I think the Predator will need at least a melee weapon to contend with the shield for when Cap closes the distance--if he gets to close it. Cool you think Cap is very outmatched; I don't.So anyway lets go with just claws, who wins?
Yes but you're missing the fact that he has and I repeat a lock on system meaning it would be hard to miss Cap. Although from what I've seen the plasma is quite a slow moving weapon, like when it's fired the shot moves slowly, kinda like star wars blasters being compared to a normal gun, a bullet moves faster. So I guess it could be easy to block. The thing is if Cap loses his shield (which he will, he always does) then when he's going up against a predators claws then he's gonna be made into ribbons. It's not just me who thinks he's outmatched, nearly everyone here agree's with me.
Pred still wins...
Originally posted by Zack FairRank? Somewhere around Adrian Veidt level. But he's facing an opponent that was manhandling multiple Xenomorphs at a time. Wolf kills Xenomorphs just as easy as Blade does Aliens. Cap is a beast, sure, but Wolf is too experienced and has too many tricks.
Where would you guys rank Cap's strength?
Another note: Yautja in general are FAR tougher than anything Cap could hope to be. These things eat multiple shotgun shells, huge impalement's, etc. and keep fighting.
Cap may have been shot in the first film I can't remember. He got hit with the Chitauri blaster and got up like a champ, and was knocked out of what looked to be a 2-3 story building but he's still not seeing the toughness of the Yautja race.
The Black Predators are a bad comparison. They weren't actually bigger than the classic Predators, it's just that the guy playing Classic was 6'5 as opposed to the Jungle and City Predators who were 7'2. Black Predators were actually shorter than that guy.
Anyway, I don't see how CA can even hope to KO or kill Wolf. Predators have insane damage soak, and this guy is tougher. On other hand, on good shot from that spear and it all over. That's assuming Wolf doesn't just go in stealth mode and snipe his ass.