Originally posted by -Pr-Fair enough. I personally think the Spectre would be just out of his element when it comes to Lucifer. I think Superman and guys like Batman hold their own with greater powers but Lucifer is pretty high end on the willpower scale.
For a "mortal" his feats just seem so impressive. Plus the kinds of things the Spectre has said, and of course him doing things even the Monitors thought impossible.
Originally posted by biensalsaThat's why I posted the end where he breaks free of the Presence's pre destination. Lucifer won out in the end. The presence wanted to combine with him. Lucifer said, naw. That's why I laughed at you from the beginning. That's why you will never be the main dish and always just the appetizer.
Quanicakes there is the whole series that questions Lucifer's own free will, please, You want me to post the entire series?
Originally posted by -Pr-
For a "mortal" his feats just seem so impressive. Plus the kinds of things the Spectre has said, and of course him doing things even the Monitors thought impossible.
This is what Quanicakes should take into account.
If I leaned towards Lucifer it was because of a hierarchy status, not because of feats.
Because based on feats Superman has better, pretty much like Doom has better feats than Thanos on the will department.
Lucifer's own will is questioned during the whole series and even He doubts if he is doing all the things He does because of his own free will or because He is actually doing the will of the Creator
Originally posted by biensalsaWhat feats of Doom are better than Thanos' feats of will power ?
This is what Quanicakes should take into account.If I leaned towards Lucifer it was because of a hierarchy status, not because of feats.
Because based on feats Superman has better, pretty much like Doom has better feats than Thanos on the will department.
Lucifer's own will is questioned during the whole series and even He doubts if he is doing all the things He does because of his own free will or because He is actually doing the will of the Creator
Lucifer at the end realizes what he needs to do and accomplishes his mission. The presence gives him his blessing. Showing self doubt but triumphing at the end doesn't mean anything. Wow. You really have no idea what you are talking about.
Originally posted by quanchi112
That's why I posted the end where he breaks free of the Presence's pre destination. Lucifer won out in the end. The presence wanted to combine with him. Lucifer said, naw. That's why I laughed at you from the beginning. That's why you will never be the main dish and always just the appetizer.
This is rich Quanicakes coming from an the guy who made a horrible OP.
And even so You scan shows how much will?
The father is asking so nicely, where do you see a the father imposing his will?
Originally posted by biensalsaLucifer's will defied his father's. Great willpower shows he escaped his function deemed by his maker. If you can't acknowledge that then you don't understand how awesome of a feat or are just being stubborn. I think you don't understand it.
This is rich Quanicakes coming from an the guy who made a horrible OP.And even so You scan shows how much will?
The father is asking so nicely, where do you see a the father imposing his will?
Originally posted by biensalsaThat just means he refused his proposal. Him escaping his function is resisting his will. I knew you didn't understand it. I already posted the Trans easily defeating Superman and by comparison Batman was greater in terms of willpower in that situation.
And pardon me, but I miss the part in which a rejecting a PROPOSAL means rejecting someones will impositionsThis is how rejecting someone's will looks like
Originally posted by quanchi112
That just means he refused his proposal. Him escaping his function is resisting his will. I knew you didn't understand it. I already posted the Trans easily defeating Superman and by comparison Batman was greater in terms of willpower in that situation.
doh I see your reading comprehension skills working once more.
