Current Hulk vs Current Colossus

Originally posted by Newjak
Except we've already seen where weird items that have weird cosmic/strange properties can and has effected Cain, Shatter Star's sword, Thor's hammer.

You have a different account of that fight, cause WWH didn't get bored and get rid of Cain leisurely. He simply couldn't beat Cain head up, and don't try and say he was playing around. Up till that point WWH had no problems hurting and nearly maiming anyone in his path. The fact he could do it to Cain is a testament to the fact WWH couldn't.

He slowed him a great deal, but he didn't stop him. It's happened before. He's never been truly "stopped", but has on several occasions been almost stopped. And if his momentum had been nullified as you said, he wouldn't have been able to side step and bfr him into the lake. And what says he was holding back?

Originally posted by The Sorrow
War and Merged Hulk had Juggernaut on the ground in pain about to finish him so this a straight up lie. Even Thor has been a step away from putting his lights out but again Cain was saved by PIS.

Colossus at Juggernaut levels was losing against Rulk, has been KO'd by his own momentum and in the previews for the next AvX VS, is again having a hard time with Rulk. It was established by Jeff Parker (and of course Pak) that Green Scar is > Rulk.

At no time was colossus losing. He got poked in the eye. Now thats PIS

This "WWH stopped Juggernaut" garbage needs to go away.

Juggernaut didn't have time to build a foot's worth of momentum... And he was still pushing WWH back, hence the BFR.

This "WWH stopped Juggernaut" garbage needs to go away

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Originally posted by KingD19
He slowed him a great deal, but he didn't stop him. It's happened before. He's never been truly "stopped", but has on several occasions been almost stopped. And if his momentum had been nullified as you said, he wouldn't have been able to side step and bfr him into the lake. And what says he was holding back?

Once WWH gained a foothold they weren't moving anywhere hence Xavier complaining about the mansion. Hulk side stepped and Juggernaut couldn't stop his momentum before Hulk shoved him away.

Hulk himself said he was holding back. Several times.

Colossus doesn't share his feats with Cain.

War Hulk tripped him with a tendril while they were locked up. And War Hulk was powered by literally the most powerful technology in existence. It's quite possible it canceled out or overrode his unstoppability enchantment since Celestials>>>Cytorrak.

War Hulk stopped him.

Celestial Tech stopped him. Not even WWH could do that so unless youre saying War Hulk>WWH plz stop using this

Once WWH gained a foothold they weren't moving anywhere hence Xavier complaining about the mansion. Hulk side stepped and Juggernaut couldn't stop his momentum before Hulk shoved him away.

Juggs didnt look to be trying to move WWH as much as just overpower him. They were trading blows for awhile and it looked to me that Juggs got the better of that exchange. Besides if WWH actually stopped Cains forward momentum it wouldnt have gone unnoticed just like when it happened with War Hulk. It was a big deal and would have been here too either with WWh gloating or Juggernaut surprised

Hulk himself said he was holding back. Several times.

Very true but that gives no reason that he would have stopped or even hurt Juggernaut at full power. And one could make the arguement that 8th Day Juggernaut is full power so in a way Juggs was holding back too (i know im streching with this one)

Colossus doesn't share his feats with Cain.

Right again but Colossus shows the ability to power up and down the way Cain never shown so id wager he might be able to go beyond what Classic Juggs can do but we'll hafta see

Originally posted by KingD19
War Hulk tripped him with a tendril while they were locked up. And War Hulk was powered by literally the most powerful technology in existence. It's quite possible it canceled out or overrode his unstoppability enchantment since Celestials>>>Cytorrak.

Yea Your Right Hulk Did Tripped Juggy.....After Hulk Stopped Him Right Down In His Track.

Originally posted by TheHulk
facepalm The Tech Was Helping Hulk Tap Into His Power(So In Theory It Was Under Hulks Own Power] Not "Amp" Him.

Yea Your Right Hulk Did Tripped Juggy.....After Hulk Stopped Him Right Down In His Track.

It doesn't matter what the tech was doing. It was still Celestial Technology which muddies the feat if it was effecting Cain which it could have been.

It was never explained?

Didn't it show Hulk's green energy field colliding with Cain's red one? There was obviously something more going on in that panel.

I know that i just wanted to know if it was ever explained by anyone.

Originally posted by KingD19
Didn't it show Hulk's green energy field colliding with Cain's red one? There was obviously something more going on in that panel.

There's also an early fight between Hulk and Juggernaut where Cain basically walked up and down on Hulk until Xavier messed with his head. It was right after Cain returned from Oblivion and lost all his crazy extra powers.

Originally posted by KingD19
There's also an early fight between Hulk and Juggernaut where Cain basically walked up and down on Hulk until Xavier messed with his head. It was right after Cain returned from Oblivion and lost all his crazy extra powers.

Yep, that's the one.

(only scan I could find)

cuz Juggernaut is the F***ING MAN

Originally posted by The Sorrow
War Hulk stopped him.

Once WWH gained a foothold they weren't moving anywhere hence Xavier complaining about the mansion. Hulk side stepped and Juggernaut couldn't stop his momentum before Hulk shoved him away.

Hulk himself said he was holding back. Several times.

Colossus doesn't share his feats with Cain.

Originally posted by KingD19
He slowed him a great deal, but he didn't stop him. It's happened before. He's never been truly "stopped", but has on several occasions been almost stopped. And if his momentum had been nullified as you said, he wouldn't have been able to side step and bfr him into the lake. And what says he was holding back?

Actually, He didn't even slow down Juggernaut at all.

The writer himself, said Juggernaut wasn't trying to use his unstoppable momentum enchantment against Green Scar in that tie up. He said it was just a test of strength.

Hulk didn't simply step aside either. He side-stepped and SHOVED Juggernaut on the shoulder, that's what got Juggernaut moving.