Rematch 8th Day Juggernaut vs Thor

Originally posted by h1a8
Thor can't fight smart forever. It's only a matter of time until Juggs gets him. Without BFR or using the rare plot device of removing his forcefield (which I don't think 8th day had) then Thor can't win.

I wouldn't even give Superman the win without bfr.

All Thor has to do is stay at range and Juggernaut won't be able to beat him. so it'd be a stalemate.

If it goes HTH, Thor would lose.

Even if 8th Day had forcefields, Thor could only drop them for 60 seconds, and 8th Day is a completely different beast. He'd last the minute no problem.

How many people have ever almost bear hugged Thor to death

Originally posted by Silent Master
All Thor has to do is stay at range and Juggernaut won't be able to beat him. so it'd be a stalemate.

If it goes HTH, Thor would lose.

Juggernaut wins.

The time 8th day appeared writers have long forgotten Juggs has a forcefield.
Thor get's humiliated.

Originally posted by Silent Master
All Thor has to do is stay at range and Juggernaut won't be able to beat him. so it'd be a stalemate.

If it goes HTH, Thor would lose.

Thor is a warrior and he fights like one. He stood toe to toe with Gladiator, Hulk, Hercules, even Juggernaut two seperate times.

Juggernaut would win this one.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
So anytime a flier takes on a grounded opponent it's at least an auto-stalemate? Lulz.

Juggernaut wins.

If the flier had several ranged attacks and the grounded one didn't, then how wouldn't it be at least a stalemate as long as the flier stayed at range?

Well Juggernaut has been shown to repel energy blasts back to where it came from. Also Juggernaut could do something like hold someone hostage forcing Thor into a face off. Juggernaut as also took lighting and godblast from Thor one doing nothing and the other bfr him some what.

I don't recall there being any hostages to hold in forum fights, also Thor can absorb energy so redirecting the blast back wouldn't do any good.

Like I said, Thor would lose HTH but could make it at least a stalemate if he fought smart.

If the flier had several ranged attacks and the grounded one didn't, then how wouldn't it be at least a stalemate as long as the flier stayed at range?

because in this case the ranged attack may have zero effect so as long as the grounded person didnt get his hands on the flier no one would win

Originally posted by juggerman
because in this case the ranged attack may have zero effect so as long as the grounded person didnt get his hands on the flier no one would win

Which is why I said he could make it a stalemate by attacking at range.

Which is not the way Thor fights even when facing the Celestials he got up close to them and attcked them.

Originally posted by Silent Master
If the flier had several ranged attacks and the grounded one didn't, then how wouldn't it be at least a stalemate as long as the flier stayed at range?

He also blasted Exitar.

And Thor can and has attacked from range plenty of times, so there's a definite argument to be made on that front.

In any case, Thor's best case scenario is an indefinite/inconclusive stalemate.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
He also blasted Exitar.

And Thor can and has attacked from range plenty of times, so there's a definite argument to be made on that front.

In any case, Thor's best case scenario is an indefinite/inconclusive stalemate.

Are we honestly saying a flyer auto-stalemates because if he or she chooses they can stay airborne? If that's the case why ever have a grounded opponent that can't fire blasts against anyone who can fly? Makes no sense.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
Because that isn't a fight, not to mention is [B]seriously OOC for someone like Thor. [/B]

Using ranged attacks isn't OOC for Thor, so the only part that could be considered OOC is him staying at range for the entire fight. however seeing as his normal tactics have been handicapped with the no BFR clause, there is no way to say if staying at range would be OOC for this fight.

i think whats is agreed upon here is that Thor cannot possibly win. his best hope then would to just try to stalemate

Originally posted by The Sorrow
Thor will switch to another attack if one doesn't work which can include reverting to melee as he also did against the Celestials.

Are we honestly saying a flyer auto-stalemates because if he or she chooses they can stay airborne? If that's the case why ever have a grounded opponent that can't fire blasts against anyone who can fly? Makes no sense.

And if melee doesn't work, he's also shown that he'll be more than willing to hang back and summon a storm or barrage of blasts or whatever ranged capabilities he's feeling like.

If Thor or Sentry or Superman or Captain Marvel or Gladiator or whomever was fighting a more or less "invincible" grounded opponent who could hurt them with melee attacks only, if they chose to stay airborne, there's really nothing said opponent could do. I don't think Thor would indefinitely stay at range, but I do think given that Thor know who Juggernaut is and would recall how formidable he was when he was amped, it's not unlikely Thor would try that route.