Adult Franklin Richards VS Rune King Thor

Originally posted by Galan007
I didn't say anything was wrong with your post, did I? I just said that you're making it more complex than it needs to be.

From a feat/speechification standpoint, the Mad Celestials are roughly equal to mainstream Celestials. Frank > a Mad Celestial (he destroyed one with ease, and contended with several of them simultaneously.) Even a no-name Celestial was FAR more powerful than Kubik/Kosmos--and Kubik already had a universal-warping feat under his belt when he made that statement about the Celestials.

Therefore, Frank > Celestials > Cube Beings > RKT. It's that easy/simple.

I edited my post just recently . I admit you never specified that I was wrong in any way . My bad for that one . However , the power gap between Cube Beings and 616 Celestials(and any alternate counterparts on par with them) is greater than what people have been led to believe .
In your opinion , how does a skyfather like Odin match up against an INCOMPLETE Cube Being like Post-Retcon Beyonder or the Molecule Man ?

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
I edited my post just recently . I admit you never specified that I was wrong in any way . My bad for that one . However , the power gap between Cube Beings and 616 Celestials(and any alternate counterparts on par with them) is greater than what people have been led to believe .
In your opinion , how does a skyfather like Odin match up against an INCOMPLETE Cube Being like Post-Retcon Beyonder or the Molecule Man ?

So yeah, even an incomplete Cube Being like Beyonder would be WELL above the likes of Odin, imo.

Originally posted by Galan007
Post-retcon Beyonder still created his own universe, and had full control over it--something FAR beyond a Skyfather's ability.

So yeah, even an incomplete Cube Being like Beyonder would be WELL above the likes of Odin, imo.

I was referring to incomplete Cube Beings and Odin , because both have a multiversal level feat . Odin's being more recent that the Cube Beings' , btw .

Also , the guy I originally responded to @Sabro , thinks that Marvel's Elder Gods "make all the cosmics look like germs" :

Originally posted by Sabro
Well, how can one be so wrong in just 1 post.Stating things he has no idea about , so clueless.

For one you have one of the mightiest celestials having nightmares about Elder God and you are assuming Celestial > Elder God.

Then you have Cyttorak who The Vishanti are very weary of and they were shown to be cappable of destroying hundreds of universes as collateral damage in a fight and also not paying any respect to LT.And then there is his avatar The Juggernaut who during his classic period was able to beat Classic Nightmare in his own realm and then you are saying Odin is some kind of a big deal and just a tier below Elder Gods.

And then there is Chthon who may or may not have been responsible for Wanda's feats but its a fact that the Chaos Wave that she was warping the omniverse with has a link to Chthon since Chaos Magic is Chthon's magic.Not to mention that Chthon was used in the same sentence with God(the shadow that cripples beneath God's feet ~~ and he is the only power significant enough to be compared to God)

In fact Marvel's mystics are the beings of the highest order in Marvel but on this board Elder Gods are assumed to be some Skyfather+ beings while in fact they make all cosmics look like germs.For instance CW Herc was amped to multiversal levels by Gaea(iirc, can't remember if she amped him or he had that inner power in himself but its a fact that he is her grandson so his power originated from her) instantly making him multi-eternity level.Thats how powerful Elder Gods are.

Beyonder IS (or at least was at the time) an incomplete cube being... So I don't get what you're asking..? Either way, Odin "shaking the multiverse" or w/e << the "trans-multiversal" damage Beyonder/MM's post-crisis brawl caused.

That guy's an idiot, btw.

Originally posted by Galan007
Beyonder IS (or at least was at the time) an incomplete cube being... So I don't get what you're asking..? Either way, Odin "shaking the multiverse" or w/e << the "trans-multiversal" damage Beyonder/MM's post-crisis brawl caused.

That guy's an idiot, btw.

The mutiversal feat was in reference to the fact that despite their greater range of (on-panel displayed)power , both these types of characters(skyfathers and incomplete cube beings) are well below a celestial in terms of overall power .
It actually has to do with the MJJ VS Adult Franklin Richards thread , but never mind , since this'll devolve into an unnecessary off-topic discussion .