Originally posted by JakeTheBank
😐So literally decades worth of Reed clearly not being omniscient being portrayed as the norm is abolished by two instances where Reed's mind is used as a blueprint for recreating reality, which in your mind, translates into him being completely omniscient?
Originally posted by zopzop
Sure, why not? How many other characters have provided the "brains" behind creating an entire reality (the PRIME reality), not once but twice?
Pretty sure Reed's omniscience would have been a great help in Hickman's current run of FF/F4. Or all the times he's tried to permanently cure Ben. Or the times he's been outsmarted or outmaneuvered by Doom. Or the countless other times where being literally all knowing would or should have saved the day or at least some grief.
It's ludicrous to believe that's he's functionally omniscient when we're shown on a regular basis that for all his intellect, he clearly is not.
Originally posted by zopzop
Yet twice, he molded creation with his mind. 🙄
And?
If Reed was omniscient, he wouldn't have needed to perfect and expanded upon a science used to predict human behavior during the Civil War storyline to come to the conclusion that Registration was needed. If was omniscient, he wouldn't have helped contribute to a Thor clone/android that killed a friend and collegue of his. If he was omniscient, he would have detected that the guy he helped build that Thor clone with and develop Pro-Registration tech with was a freakin' Skrull.
Using two high end, completely not the norm examples of Reed being omniscient - and Reed's mind being used as a template doesn't even translate into the definition of the word - doesn't nullify the consistent, regular, and vastly more numerous examples of Reed clearly being shown not to be omniscient.
It's ridiculous.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
And?If Reed was omniscient, he wouldn't have needed to perfect and expanded upon a science used to predict human behavior during the Civil War storyline to come to the conclusion that Registration was needed. If was omniscient, he wouldn't have helped contribute to a Thor clone/android that killed a friend and collegue of his. If he was omniscient, he would have detected that the guy he helped build that Thor clone with and develop Pro-Registration tech with was a freakin' Skrull.
Using two high end, completely not the norm examples of Reed being omniscient - and Reed's mind being used as a template doesn't even translate into the definition of the word - doesn't nullify the consistent, regular, and vastly more numerous examples of Reed clearly being shown not to be omniscient.
It's ridiculous.
If he wasn't omniscient, an omnipotent being, Alien Entity, wouldn't have sought him out to provide the "know how" in order to create the PRIME reality.
Well, if you want to throw out 99% of Reed's history and portrayal in favor of two examples which allude to Reed being omniscient (even though I disagree that Reed's mind being a blueprint to mold reality makes him omniscient) even though it's clear, abundantly so, that Marvel doesn't think Reed is functionally omniscient, be my guest.
Guess that make Doom even more badass as he regular battles an omniscient being and does well if not beat him.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Well, if you want to throw out 99% of Reed's history and portrayal in favor of two examples which allude to Reed being omniscient (even though I disagree that Reed's mind being a blueprint to mold reality makes him omniscient) even though it's clear, abundantly so, that Marvel doesn't think Reed is functionally omniscient, be my guest.Guess that make Doom even more badass as he regular battles an omniscient being and does well if not beat him.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Why should that matter? Either Reed's omniscient or he's not. And Doom's outsmarted him.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Obvious trolling is obvious.
Yes, I've heard of low showings. I've also heard of high showings, which is something you don't seem to be getting here.
When Reed Richards is consistently portrayed as literally being an all knowing being who understands and comprehends the nature of all things, I'll agree he's omniscient. Until then, he's a far, far, FAR cry from that.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Yes, I've heard of low showings. I've also heard of high showings, which is something you don't seem to be getting here.When Reed Richards is consistently portrayed as literally being an all knowing being who understands and comprehends the nature of all things, I'll agree he's omniscient. Until then, he's a far, far, FAR cry from that.
Alien Entity provided the power, omnipotence, Reed provided the "know how", aka the omniscience.
Originally posted by khalidax
Zopzop you are wrong. Reed applied the laws of physics and sciences, his knowledge to the raw and unordered universe. He set constraints to the simulation, so there would be order. I do the same when using finite element analysis software.Ohmagerd
Am I omniscient ?!
Stephen Hawking is omniscient .
