Originally posted by red sabre
dareveil is not nearly as strong as cap, it was only boxing so no use of techniques that can hurt cage, they were wearing boxing bloves which doesnt help the casehaving a steel/titanium hard skin doesnt keep you safe from blunt force trauma, scorpion was beating the crap out of luke cage because if the blows are strong enough they inflict damage on the internal organs.
he got steel skin on his balls? and you think it will help? if i put a strip of steel on your balls and then kick them as hard as i can with super human strength do you think you wont get an omlet? his internal organs can be damaged as happened before otherwise no one should or would take him out and he was hurt by spider man caliber opponents before that didnt use weak spots just plain punching, as i stated already if can use balls, eyes, ear dome which has nothing to do with skin, his joints which once again should give up to specific techniques performed by someone as strong as cap and just break, the back of the head should take him out easily even namor was taken out by one of those performed by cap
thats not a dirty fighting, cap is a soldier and he fights to win and if he will face luke cage and knows the only way to take cage out is with those kind of tactics then he will use them, i know caps character very well and i know without a doubt he will use those tactics if needed to take his opponent down because while having morals he is a soldier on the battlefield, he punch people just for not agreeing with him dont try and make a boyscout out of him like superman
are you implying cap is as strong as scorpion?
scorpion is class 25 and has comaprable strength to cage(although iw ould put cage at class 50 as of present). a punch from scorpion is much harder than cap can muster.
cage has successively taken hits from high end bricks, now even a hydrated namor has been added to the list, he was punched several blocks away by hiroim in wwh and he was perfectly fine not even KOd, cap can't dream of hitting him that hard.
Pressure points are his only option.
on top of everything , he has superhuman stamina and is an accomplished fighter in his own right having trained with IF and avengers.
He's very durable , it's his schtick.
Cage wins both more times than not in both.
Originally posted by ankur29
are you implying cap is as strong as scorpion?scorpion is class 25 and has comaprable strength to cage(although iw ould put cage at class 50 as of present). a punch from scorpion is much harder than cap can muster.
cage has successively taken hits from high end bricks, now even a hydrated namor has been added to the list, he was punched several blocks away by hiroim in wwh and he was perfectly fine not even KOd, cap can't dream of hitting him that hard.
Pressure points are his only option.
on top of everything , he has superhuman stamina and is an accomplished fighter in his own right having trained with IF and avengers.
He's very durable , it's his schtick.
Cage wins both more times than not in both.
i am just stating that even with cage steel skin and durability he was hurt by spider man caliber people with just blows, captain america while not physically as strong but not too far away can hurt cage at least by using pressure points and weak spots just like the ones i mentioned
i wouldnt say a punch from scorpion is that much harder than caps like you are trying to present it, harder? sure i guess but that much? cmon wana go feats? scorpion is known for using his tail and by punching never did he knock out anyone or done anything worth mentioning to present it as something way above cap punching feats, ovewrall as i stated its invalid because i used this case to adress the statement of someone saying he has a steel skin, cap will be able to hurt him with weak spots on the body like he did to hulk and namor easily
dude did you even read my freaking post? did you even understand it? i am not trying to compare caps punching power to the top dogs , i am stating that cap can use pressure points and weak spots in the human body to his advantage, namor was stated as someone who cap already took out by using a shield strike to the back of his head that was my point geez learn to read
trained by irn fist? you try to suggest cage can play with cap? the gap between cage and cap in skills is superior to the gap they have in strength, if you want to mention stamina then cap doesnt tire either because of his fatigue recovery which doesnt let him tire out, but as i said before if cap use both his speed and skills which are superior to cage and use tactics such as kicking him in the balls, eye gauge, ear dome strike, knee strike that will bust his knee caps, hit him in the back of his neck, use tendon strikes and joint manipulation techniques on him he will take cage out and actually that means he will take cage out the majority of times
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Cap has drawn blood from John Steele. And while he ultimately lost in a straight up fight, John Steele is much much much faster and more skilled than Cage, Something to consider.
yeah i forgot about that, john steel has super human durability and also invulnerable skin that makes bullets bounce away from, however notice in this scan cap easily dwars blood from the guy, if you notice cap punch him in the nose which is something i didnt consider in the first place, the nose can be easily broken and bleed out even if the skin on top of the nose bone doesnt rapture, the nose bleed from the inside out and gushing out just like presented right here
and this is how captain america does with someone who is as durable as luke cage and perhaps as strong as him only thing is john steele is also much faster than cap , this is how well cap can do vs such a guy due to his skills and striking power
all credit goes to OneDumbG0 for reminding me of that