Star Wars Characters run the Metal Gear Gauntlet

Originally posted by NemeBro
[B]Afraid not, since you appear to be bad at actually gauging SW's power.

Irrevelant.

Provide evidence of the supposed power of Bane's lightning please.

It is in Rule of Two when he uses it and his own lightnign backfires... page 276.

Though... Voltage isn't electric power, you dolt. Amperes would fit that description better.

You fool voltage is potential difference which is like speed of bullet, and it is what is mentioned every time force lightnign is talked about and how powerful it is. It is voltage that matters for how much orbalisks can absorb for example, and they cannot absorb what volgin can produce.

Probably block it with a Force shield.

It was analojy. Bullet is actually person + sword so force shield does not work.

Or disintegrate the bullet and everything in his path with a gesture.

In mid flight. he is not quick enough.

You are very stupid.

Prove anyone but Solidus has them. Now.

Psychics are very common in MGS and high rankign officials have acees to them. So they were trying to make gray fox perfect soldier so he would have them. Solidus would have lent some to vamp. Raiden is maybe depending on

Spoiler:
who was behind his cyborg transofrmation

Also, Psycho Mantis's telepathy is ****ing weak compared to any decent Jedi or Sith.

Not true that he breaks fourth wall shows how powerful it is. He can read past present and future of a person and wihtout maks thoughts just come flooding to him.

He can deflect blaster volleys easily, and can telekinetically compress them to marbles.

Which he does using precog. Not very effective here.

Originally posted by Pwned
Yeah, because the guys who hit you dozens of times before you blink, or stand in a downpour and are not touched by a single drop of rain are not fast. Totally.

I never say they not fast bro. They just nowhere enar as fast as bullet timers.

Precog means they just stick the lightsaber where they are going.

Only works on stuff that doesnt react mid flight, the bullet timers will be able to change direction depending on where lightsaber would be headed.

Because you see, momentum does not work like that. You can not just instantly change direction mid-run. You pause, slow down, whatever you want to call it. They can not do that.

Yes but they only have to slow down/stop for but an instant if they want to (.0000000000000000000000000000001 seonds), before changing direction, it sitll to small time for jedis to react.

Bullet-timers can not run at the speed of a bullet, they can dodge them.

yes by running almost as fast. They only have to cross small x distance while bullet crosses largery z distance, but the speed is still comaprable that it makes htem much fatsers thna ejdis.

Hell, Max Payne is a bullet timer, but he can't move faster than a normal person. (Incidentally, its because the mechanic is called "Bullet Time"😉

Gameplay mechanics.

You seriously are not on the right side here. The MG guys get raped to all hell, and yet for some reason you think they will win. News flash: They don't.

You have not even played the games bro you know nothing.

If anything, Bane has it the easiest. Field of pure dark side energy= Anybody going near him=Dead. Bane becomes stronger, and whoever was smart enough to stay back gets crushed by his massive powahs.

1. Bullet timers run up to him and s;ice his head off before he can do it.

2. If he manages to conjure it then they dont go close and instead chuck their swords at his face and kill him instantly. Either way they would win.

Vlgin is probably only one that lsoes.

NO, just not. You can't "chuck a sword" at somebody. They are not balanced properly for throwing. Plus TK knocks them away. And Bane can move as well you know. Meaning they die, either way.

When fighting with a jedi or sith, an instant is what it takes them to kill you.

Bullet timers dodge bullets by moving really fast and anticipating the path..... They are fast, sure, but not nearly as fast as a Jedi or Sith. I would say that for any bullet timers. Plus, when a jedi dodges the slugs from a slug thrower at close range, that puts them into the bullet timer category.

No, they would get hit by the lightsaber. Because the precog would tell the Jedi/Sith they were about to change direction.

Also, it takes longer than an instant to do change direction. At the speeds a bullet timer can move, a 90 degree angle would probably force them to completely stop to turn.

Originally posted by Pwned
NO, just not. You can't "chuck a sword" at somebody. They are not balanced properly for throwing.

Anything can be sued as projectile bro. You just need to be used to balance.

Plus TK knocks them away.

TK that can mnot be use din time.

And Bane can move as well you know. Meaning they die, either way.

Very slowly compared to bullet timers.

When fighting with a jedi or sith, an instant is what it takes them to kill you.

Not instant when instant is 0.00000000000000000001 seconds. jedis dont move that fast.

Bullet timers dodge bullets by moving really fast and anticipating the path.....

Nope they dodge the bullet once the bullet has already headed in their direction. Depending on distance it usually means they can move about a 5th of the speed of the bullet.

They are fast, sure, but not nearly as fast as a Jedi or Sith.

I think I will stop responding if you keep saying this. Jedis and Siths are not anywhere near as fats as a speeding bullet, so i will ask you top stop speaking this crap.

I would say that for any bullet timers. Plus, when a jedi dodges the slugs from a slug thrower at close range, that puts them into the bullet timer category.

Nope because they sue precog to put lgihtsaber where bullet is going to be before it is fired and the eprson firing slug thrower is rehgular human.

No, they would get hit by the lightsaber. Because the precog would tell the Jedi/Sith they were about to change direction.

What you dont understand is that, if they are that much afster than the jedis, then they can at any point move to where the lightdaber isnt and the lightsaber will not be able to respond in time. It is flaw with precognition, almost similar to the idea that you can change future by knowing it. If jedi know where they ill end up attacking them and pout their lightsaber, well, the bullet timer will change their mind and attack them where their lightaber is not defending. And because the bullet timer can react and change his mind, and is so much faster than the jedi, it is simple matter of attacking area where jedis defences is not covering.

Also, it takes longer than an instant to do change direction.

For you mabye.

At the speeds a bullet timer can move, a 90 degree angle would probably force them to completely stop to turn.

Sure they will stop but with their speed and reflexes and agility it will only be for moment (0.0000000000001 seconds). These guys cna move at around 300 miels per hour bro.

Originally posted by Darth Ray Park
I never said the Jedis is not fast. I am saying that bullet timers are much faster.

That's called "proof by assertion", and it's a dishonest way of debating.

Here, let me try:

I say that all the Force users here can inherently outmaneuver and kill all of the MGS folks on any given day because they have better powers, skills, knowledge, awesomeness, and fasty-ness.

Disprove.

But we see Jedis mvoe at normal speeds and get matched by random bounty hunters in speed.

Even ebst feats liekt eh Bane one is still not comparable to someone who can bullet time, which would require speeds or around 300 MPH.

So why exactly are we saying the jedis are faster? They never move anywhere near as fats and we see multiple times were rthey move much slowrer, almost human levels of speed.

All evidence points to Raiden, Vamp, Gray Fox and Solidus being much much faster

Moose has a point there.

Bullet timers dodge bullets. They do so by anticipating the path the bullet will take. Because they can't see the bullets.

Ray, you don't understand what I am saying apparently. Bullet timers can NOT instantly change direction. The Laws of Physics state otherwise. And nothing can react in a time with a decimal and that many zeroes before the 1, you can not think that fast. And it does not matter how fast you can run, because the faster you move, the longer it takes you to change direction.

Show me a video of them moving at 300 miles per hour while dodging a dozen bullets coming from different angles and switching direction mid-flight. Otherwise, the Force users can speed-blitz them.

No, you can't really use a sword as a projectile, because the blade leaves it off balance and makes it hit the ground.

TK=speed of thought. Faster than anything else the MG guys can offer. TK rapes the MG guys.

Jedi precog shows them what will happen. If they will be hit, they block it. It shows them where they will be hit and where the shot will be while it is in mid-flight. The speed of the person shooting does not matter.

And yes, they are faster than a bullet, because they block them at extremely close range. They dodge them as well.

Why don't you quit with the fanboyism?

Ray, you don't understand what I am saying apparently. Bullet timers can NOT instantly change direction. The Laws of Physics state otherwise.

I never say that what i was said is that they will stop but it only be for an instant with people that can move that quickly and have comrable agility. In the videos Grey Fox and Soldisu actualyl change direction in the line of a bullets traget as well btw.

And nothing can react in a time with a decimal and that many zeroes before the 1, you can not think that fast.

Regualr humans cannot, people with sueprhuman speed of thouthg can and they must have that to eb able to run that fast and control where they are going.

No, you can't really use a sword as a projectile, because the blade leaves it off balance and makes it hit the ground.

if you throw it with enough force than the forces of gravirty/weight and balancing is negligible to movement of the blade.

TK=speed of thought. Faster than anything else the MG guys can offer. TK rapes the MG guys.

Wrong speed of thought is not that fast you cannot think cohierent thoughts during time it takes for a bullet to hit you, yet they cna move during that small timephrame.

Plus as said most are strong enough to just shrug off TK. Psycho Mantis hismelf is very powerful TK who can cause natural disasters and destroyed his entire village when he was not even 5 years of age.

Jedi precog shows them what will happen. If they will be hit, they block it. It shows them where they will be hit and where the shot will be while it is in mid-flight. The speed of the person shooting does not matter.

Yes speed does matter because the entire point is that they know where the bullet is already headed and they can move their lightsaber quickly enough to enter target of gun before it is fired. if person wieleding gun was usperhuman speed he could move the gun into a direction and fire bullet befor ejedi can react,m regardless of rpecog.

Preog does not make the jedis superhuman fats and they cannot block a bullet that changes direction depending on where their defences aree.

Spoilers to MGS4, Stealth Moose you should probably not click this if you plan on playing rest of series.

Pwned this is really cool fight scene in MGS4:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R61cCBUWNQM

BTW they usually move much faster it is in slow motion.

Check this one out two

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3OxjPiMcqQ

Metal Gear ahs the bets fight scenes and boss battles... EVER.

very badasss scene:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJECmFgXaSk&feature=endscreen&NR=1

Massive spoilers in both links Stealth.

Originally posted by Darth Ray Park
I never say that what i was said is that they will stop but it only be for an instant with people that can move that quickly and have comrable agility. In the videos Grey Fox and Soldisu actualyl change direction in the line of a bullets traget as well btw.

Regualr humans cannot, people with sueprhuman speed of thouthg can and they must have that to eb able to run that fast and control where they are going.

if you throw it with enough force than the forces of gravirty/weight and balancing is negligible to movement of the blade.

Wrong speed of thought is not that fast you cannot think cohierent thoughts during time it takes for a bullet to hit you, yet they cna move during that small timephrame.

Plus as said most are strong enough to just shrug off TK. Psycho Mantis hismelf is very powerful TK who can cause natural disasters and destroyed his entire village when he was not even 5 years of age.

Yes speed does matter because the entire point is that they know where the bullet is already headed and they can move their lightsaber quickly enough to enter target of gun before it is fired. if person wieleding gun was usperhuman speed he could move the gun into a direction and fire bullet befor ejedi can react,m regardless of rpecog.

Preog does not make the jedis superhuman fats and they cannot block a bullet that changes direction depending on where their defences aree.

They don't just shrug off TK due to physical strength, it does not work that way.

No, the blade will not be balance for throwing, meaning it is FAR less likely to result in the blade hitting something first.

Video 1 was in normal speed, and they did not show anything particularly impressive other than damage soak and strength when he twirled those robot things. Videos 2 and 3 could not load for whatever reason.

Anyways, considering how they can't survive a decapitation, and that is what would happen as soon as they came within reach means they die.

Final Fantasy dudes kill them all. xD

Not true! Bandon solo's them.

Oh! Fahh, again I failed to consider him x_X

And that, is why you fail.

Other fight was slowed down so we could see it this how fast he really is:

YouTube video

Scene starts at 2:40. At 3: 26 and 6:50 he dodges bullets with ease.

He is also immortal btw.

Originally posted by Arhael
Final Fantasy dudes kill them all. xD

Sephiroth is th man! 😄

If he is immortal then he should not be here. Because that is spite, plain and simple.

I doubt he is truly immortal, and I bet a swift decapitation will take him out of the fight. Or at the least, reduce him to a pile of ashes.

My wi fi has been acting up, I should be able to watch the videos tomorrow, but I can't today.

Originally posted by Darth Ray Park
Spoilers to MGS4, Stealth Moose you should probably not click this if you plan on playing rest of series.

Pwned this is really cool fight scene in MGS4:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R61cCBUWNQM

BTW they usually move much faster it is in slow motion.

The fight's not in slow motion you damn turd. Quit fabricating bullshit to support your lame ass arguments. The speed of their movements compared with the speed of falling objects/enemies/other is consistent with non-superhuman (i.e. within human limits) speeds.

Originally posted by Darth Ray Park
Other fight was slowed down so we could see it this how fast he really is:

YouTube video

Scene starts at 2:40. At 3: 26 and 6:50 he dodges bullets with ease.

He is also immortal btw.

He's CLEARLY visible. While fast, there is nothing there to suggest that he moves FASTER than a ****ing bullet you derp. Compare his speed to the speed of the gunmen and it's CLEAR that the movements in this video are meant to portray his actual speed which is, as I just said, visible to the human eye.

Yeah I double posted, so what?

You want to know what? YOU WANT TO KNOW? YOUR SUCH A...................... good person.