Originally posted by Stoic
I think that the Trans line begins, when one character can defeat a team of mid to high heralds with some but not a lot of trouble.
Since it was below transcendentals I initially thought of Nova or Katma. Mainly because there aren't too women on this scale.
Now, Jean as the Phoenix is probably too power, but what about Rachel? She never did anything too impressive, right? Keep in mind this is Rachel as the Phoenix, and not the Dark phoenix.
Then again, it's rather difficult to reach a consensus when the line is as blurry as it is.