MMA's vs MA'er

Started by socool85202 pages

^ appreciate the advice. As I have stated, my fighting expertise goes as far as some limited boxing training from my father and the schoolyard/teenager BS. lol. Besides my dad didn't know what to do with me when he saw that even though I am right handed, I fight in a south paw stance. lol

Not that uncommon, you should still probably learn orthodox, though.

I agree, it really wastes alot of power punching when you lead with your dominant hand. On the plus side though, switching back and forth may not be too awkward later on though. What are your primary skill sets? I see what appears to be Thai boxing in your avatar

MT, starting no-gi bjj.

That's cool. Wish I would have started some Karate while I was in Okinawa

Re: MMA's vs MA'er

Why are you insulting MMA?

There is a big difference between a Mixed Martial Artist and a Martial Artist and it can be put as simply as this: Mixed Martial Artists are multi-dimensional fighters, martial artists are not.

In MMA it doesn't matter how skilled you are at something like Karate or boxing, if that's all you have, someone like Chael Sonnen will take you down and smother you (or submit you).

MMA fighters are jacks of all trades and usually masters of none, it's their ability to mix their attacks up that makes them the best fighters on the planet (see: Georges St. Pierre, Jose Aldo, Anderson Silva, Jon Jones).

Vitor or Franklin would probabaly wax that guy if he put the sticks down. You said it yourself: he is not a mixed martial artist, he is one dimensional, which will get your steamrolled by a guy who can mix it up well.

Throw Buakaw Por in the octagon with Jose Aldo, who will win?

Not all martial arts are one dimensional.

Originally posted by Mindset
Not all martial arts are one dimensional.

Martial artist implies to me that you only practice one martial art, so by that standard, you are one dimensional (I don't mean that in a bad way, I'm just saying), a mixed martial artist will practice multiple martial arts and learn to mix up his attacks.

Just look at Georges St. Pierre fight, when he fights a guy who is a better striker than him, he can mix up his takedowns and strikes and effectively out-strike the other guy despite being less skilled in that dimension (he did that to Thiago Alves).

If he fights a good wrestler with good takedown defense, he can set his takedowns up with his strikes and take the guy down (he did it to Josh Koscheck).

One dimensional implies that you only do striking or grappling(can actually go further into that, but let's not), so like I said, not all martial arts are one dimensional.

MMS=Jack of All Trades, Master at none.

Originally posted by Mindset
One dimensional implies that you only do striking or grappling(can actually go further into that, but let's not), so like I said, not all martial arts are one dimensional.

I know what you mean, but many martial arts focus on one aspect of fighting, the sport of mixed martial arts creates the most well rounded fighters on the planet.

Originally posted by Insomniatric
I know what you mean, but many martial arts focus on one aspect of fighting, the sport of mixed martial arts creates the most well rounded fighters on the planet.
I would say that's subjective.

I'm sure there are plenty of MAers out there that would be considered well rounded by your definition of the term.

Originally posted by Insomniatric
I know what you mean, but many martial arts focus on one aspect of fighting, the sport of mixed martial arts creates the most well rounded fighters on the planet.
OK, and I'm telling you that there are martial arts that create well rounded fighters. Nor is mma some new idea, it has been around for centuries.

Originally posted by Mindset
OK, and I'm telling you that there are martial arts that create well rounded fighters. Nor is mma some new idea, it has been around for centuries.

I know that, I was just saying that most martial arts do not focus on being well-rounded. Mixed Martial Arts directly focuses on being skilled in all aspects of fighting, so I don't understand why OP was insulting it. I know it's not new (and that it wasn't invented by Bruce Lee) as well.

Personally, I think of a martial artist as someone who practices only one aspect of fighting (like a boxer), and a mixed martial artist is someone who trains more than one aspect (example: I consider someone who trains in Sambo a "mixed martial artist" since sambo deals with more than one aspect of fighting). It's just the way I think of it.

I'm not sure if I've offended you or not, but if by chance I have, I'm sorry because I didn't intend too.