Not having to fight, is what martial arts is all about.Martial arts ultimately exists to polish your character.
Again, this is all myth.
Whole poitn of martial arts is to be able to defend yourself and those around you, and assert your dominance over your peers. If you want to polish your character, well, go do some charity work or something.
The whole point of martial arts is to train you to fight... why spend all that time learnign something and never use it?
Doesn't matter. If you're a real Martial Artist, then you should have enough self-control to ignore his comments and seek the higher road.
It's not that i dont have the self-control. It is that I wanted to engage him in the argument as I enjoyed verbally sparring with him.
Again, you been watching too many Jacky Chan movies and have probably never been to actual martial arts school in western world.
Originally posted by Darth Ray Park
Again, this is all myth.Whole poitn of martial arts is to be able to defend yourself and those around you, and assert your dominance over your peers. If you want to polish your character, well, go do some charity work or something.
The whole point of martial arts is to train you to fight... why spend all that time learnign something and never use it?
Dominance? 😆
Originally posted by Darth Ray Park
It's not that i dont have the self-control. It is that I wanted to engage him in the argument as I enjoyed verbally sparring with him.Again, you been watching too many Jacky Chan movies and have probably never been to actual martial arts school in western world.
Self-control is a virtue. 😛
If you want respect, give it and it will be handed back to you in kind.
Dude, dominance is what you leave for the kinky people for the bedroom.
Seriously, I trained in martial arts for years..... The one thign they stressed was that you should never seek a fight, never advocate what you know to show your better, and NEVER go around disrespecting people. Integrity, character, and honor are still major parts of it. I have no clue where you have been, but for however short your lifespan has apparently been, you have been going to the wrong place.
Oh, and humans don't train to kill people in H2H from the age of 3 years.
Originally posted by Darth Ray Park
Again, this is all myth.Whole poitn of martial arts is to be able to defend yourself and those around you, and assert your dominance over your peers. If you want to polish your character, well, go do some charity work or something.
Martial arts is about forging a body into a machine that can react faster than thought with tried and true technique and a mind that is wise enough to use said techniques intelligently and with restraint. I can't think of a single martial art where the motto is clearly "rape the other guy senseless if you can, bro".
The whole point of martial arts is to train you to fight... why spend all that time learnign something and never use it?
See above. Much of the mental aspect of martial arts, be they Eastern or Western or Modern, is to instill a mindset. It acts as a foundation to make the techniques and movements seem more natural. Even the less sport-oriented kinds like Krav Maga stress that straight up murdering everyone isn't the idea behind these deadly moves, but to protect yourself and loved ones in dire need, and to minimize conflict.
You'll need something other than your own divine opinion to prove your point. Here's a protip:
Spoiler:
Don't use Youtube this time
It's not that i dont have the self-control. It is that I wanted to engage him in the argument as I enjoyed verbally sparring with him.
We all lose our control to some degree at some time. But being a douchebag all the time nets you no prestige points around here. I think what people are saying here is that you're acting more immature than a dedicated high level martial artist would act. And having taken Tae Kwon Do classes one summer in seventh grade does not count.
Again, you been watching too many Jacky Chan movies and have probably never been to actual martial arts school in western world.
You, who have proven no credibility whatsoever, are disputing the words of someone else based on what exactly? The "nuh uh" clause?
Prove up or shut up, bro. If you have proof of your assertions, source it or keep your peace.
Originally posted by Stealth MooseMartial arts is about forging a body into a machine that can react faster than thought with tried and true technique and a mind that is wise enough to use said techniques intelligently and with restraint. I can't think of a single martial art where the motto is clearly "rape the other guy senseless if you can, bro".
Absolutely. By asserting dominance over peers i meant in stuff like competitions (boxing, wrestling, mma, kickboxing, ADCC, Mundials, World Jiu-Jitsu Tournament, Olympics etc) which you have for every martial art, and even in stuff like police enforcement and military. Point is, it is supposed to be used, just not against the innocent. Obviosuly it is not encouraged to egt into bar fights.
And yes, they teach you not to use them as aggresor against someone who does not provoke you, but that is not really as part of the martial art but so as to protect society from what you are teaching. The martial art itself is strictly a physical and etchnical exercise. All that mental stuff - either minor formality that isn;t really taken that seriously, or something because just accept as sort of, a condition for them to teach you.
See above. Much of the mental aspect of martial arts, be they Eastern or Western or Modern, is to instill a mindset. It acts as a foundation to make the techniques and movements seem more natural. Even the less sport-oriented kinds like Krav Maga stress that straight up murdering everyone isn't the idea behind these deadly moves, but to protect yourself and loved ones in dire need, and to minimize conflict.You'll need something other than your own divine opinion to prove your point. Here's a protip:
Spoiler:
Don't use Youtube this timeWe all lose our control to some degree at some time. But being a douchebag all the time nets you no prestige points around here. I think what people are saying here is that you're acting more immature than a dedicated high level martial artist would act.
Again, any sense of "honour", maturity or anything like that has nothign to do with it. There is no real correlation between what they teach you in martial arts and the kind of person you are, and if you feel thatway then you probably lack any real experience and are just going by the movies/pop culture or what you may have heard. Yes I am pretty immature but I am not violent and that is what they teach ypu in martial arts not to be violent against people who dont deserve it, maturity, abnter, verbale sparring or arguments has nothing to do with it.
If you look at all the different characters in MMA, such as the Nick Diazs and Chael Sonnens... these are the kind of people you get that take up martial arts. people who want to compete, want to be strong, want to be able to protect themselevs and others and, if it coems down to it, be able to beat someone else up in a fight. Anbd you can get big personalities and eys, sometimes they will be quite immature or even slightly antagonistic to otehrs (verbally).
BTW I have been far more civil than anybody else I have attacked recently and did it more as retaliation. Nepthys has been trolling me for days and we can all see how Jinsoku was in this thread. NemeBro has said comments about my itnelligence numerous times.
And having taken Tae Kwon Do classes one summer in seventh grade does not count.
lol.
You, who have proven no credibility whatsoever, are disputing the words of someone else based on what exactly? The "nuh uh" clause?Prove up or shut up, bro. If you have proof of your assertions, source it or keep your peace.
Based on what they is saying. Saying that you doubt somevody is high level martial artist because they display signs of immaturity or whatever shows that... you clearly have no idea of the kind of people that do and teach martial arts.We are not emotioneless, overly polite people that bow to eachother all the time bro. If anything we re supposed to bow but it is only formality and most schools dont bother with enforcing it. There are few other formalities, but they are just that. Nothing that people even take all that seriously and nothing to do with who we are.
People who learn it often do so to as i said earlier be able to compete, be touhg, be able to protect themsleves and others, and to be able to beat someone else in a fight if it came to it (and of course for military and police enfporcement). And believe it or not, most peope who teach it do it for the moeny, as part of employment, as their day job, and not any nonsense about honour and passing on their teachings or whatever. This attracts all sort of people and believe me, adherence to simple formalities like bowing before entering the dojo does not sy anything about the pople they are. At the end of the day, the real essence of the martial art is technice and physicality. The mental stuff is either formality or msotly, a myth. We are ultimately learnign how tpo fight bro.
One good thing is that tyime spent there usually gets all of the aggression out of you and acts as place to elt out all competitive feeligns etc... so usuaully people there if they have any aggersive feelings let them out there and then act civilly and peacefully in soicecty.
Absolutely. By asserting dominance over peers i meant in stuff like competitions (boxing, wrestling, mma, kickboxing, ADCC, Mundials, World Jiu-Jitsu Tournament, Olympics etc) which you have for every martial art, and even in stuff like police enforcement and military. Point is, it is supposed to be used, just not against the innocent. Obviosuly it is not encouraged to egt into bar fights.
The martial art itself is strictly a physical and etchnical exercise.
Yeah but this is not fight to death it is fight like in MMA with MMA rules.Tell it to Maul...
I don't condone this kind of stupidity. However, I think it's important to remember that Jango Fett DESTROYED half a dozen Jedi Knights all by himself, simultaneously, using just his fists. And the Jedi weren't even unarmed. They had lightsabers.
Without access to the force and a lightsaber, I really wouldn't be too quick to dismiss a good MMA fighter against a force user.
Originally posted by Arhael
Competitions are sport. Police and military training isn't martial art either.Never was and never will be. It is called martial [b]Art
. If there is no spiritual side, there is no art.
Not true the art is in the body not any irrelevant mental aspect.
Tell it to Maul... [/B]
In that case Anderson wins by DQ.
I wouldn't say Jango is an MMA fighter. I mean, he is a Mandalorian. I always make a distinction, there are sword fighters, duelists, then there are mandos.
Ray, you should probably go to an actual Martial Arts place (Since every one has a different name) and sit in for a couple lessons. Honor and character do have things to do with it, because those are traditions carried with the Art. Oh, and the bowing is enforced almost everywhere, because it is a sign of respect.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
I don't condone this kind of stupidity. However, I think it's important to remember that Jango Fett DESTROYED half a dozen Jedi Knights all by himself, simultaneously, using just his fists. And the Jedi weren't even unarmed. They had lightsabers.Without access to the force and a lightsaber, I really wouldn't be too quick to dismiss a good MMA fighter against a force user.
PIS. Either that or they were literally the worst Jedi in the order.
Bro have I not said many times that I actually teach BJJ? I;m not lying and I know these environments very well.
Originally posted by Pwned
Oh, and the bowing is enforced almost everywhere, because it is a sign of respect.
Completely untrue. Where I train Jiu-Jitsu its really informal environment and i think it was enforced for a short while when I first got there but ever sicne it has been first name basis compeltely. Only thing we do is at start and end of session we yemi but that is it.