Anti-Monitor vs Franklin Richards

Started by MF DELPH2 pages

Not so sure about that because Anti-Monitor eventially consumes the Anti-Matter universe as well in COIE, iirc, so he ate/absorbed his own powersource that he was already connected to gain what? I think it's just that he and Monitor are opposites and equals until AM's actions tipped the balance. There's obviously a connection betwen them and the matter/anti-matter makeup of the DC Multiverse, but I don't believe they both have the equivalent power of half a multiverse each. The Anti-Matter Universe (there was only one) was equal in size to the positive matter multiverse (positive matter being split up into various universes). Once AM started consuming those universes the power balance shifted from equal to anti.

It also made no sense that Monitor didn't just engage him in combat before he began the universe absorptions, but you know.

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Just to clarify, I think there's a connection, but not necessary that the entirety of multiversal halves were all "power source" for the Monitors, just had an effect on their reserves based on the balance.

Using Spectre has a benchmark, Franklin Richard loses.

Originally posted by MF DELPH
Not so sure about that because Anti-Monitor eventially consumes the Anti-Matter universe as well in COIE, iirc, so he ate/absorbed his own powersource that he was already connected to gain what? I think it's just that he and Monitor are opposites and equals until AM's actions tipped the balance. There's obviously a connection betwen them and the matter/anti-matter makeup of the DC Multiverse, but I don't believe they both have the equivalent power of half a multiverse each. The Anti-Matter Universe (there was only one) was equal in size to the positive matter multiverse (positive matter being split up into various universes). Once AM started consuming those universes the power balance shifted from equal to anti.

It also made no sense that Monitor didn't just engage him in combat before he began the universe absorptions, but you know.

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Just to clarify, I think there's a connection, but not necessary that the entirety of multiversal halves were all "power source" for the Monitors, just had an effect on their reserves based on the balance.

Could be.

I just think of the multiverse as a pool of power from which Monitor draws his energy--same with the anti-matter universe and AM. Imo, it wouldn't make sense for them to be engaged in a war that lasted a million years, without using all of the power at their disposal. That said, because the infinite multiverse was Monitor's 'power source', AM would have needed to be able to draw the same level of power from the anti-matter universe for them to be "equal" (hence my theory regarding AM possessing multiversal-level power.)

Just a theory. *shrugs*

Part of this was retconned in Final Crisis anyway, right? Aren't they just a split probe now?

Originally posted by MF DELPH
Part of this was retconned in Final Crisis anyway, right? Aren't they just a split probe now?
Yeah per FC, that is how the Monitor and Anti-Monitor were created--they were originally one probe designed by the Primal Monitor to investigate the multiverse. However, upon entering the multiverse they were split in two by the stories they encountered there (the concept of "story" had no meaning to them until then--thus, they had no defense against it.) Originally, COIE had the Monitors randomly form on a moon of Oa and Qward, for no real reason--which always seemed rushed/stupid to me. FC's origin was way better, imo:

But their origins are all that was really retconned.

Well, their original origin had Krona's experiment causing them to be created in the resulting fracturing of the multiverse (which gave them a connection to said multiverse/anti-matter universe). The retcon places their origin as independent to and resultant of the multiverse's discovery (as an external probe sent by the Primal Monitor) which removes their connection to the multiverse outright, and just incorporates that entry into the DC Multiverse by the probe caused an adverse reaction splitting it along positive and negative/good and evil, resulting in Monitor and Anti-Monitor.