Originally posted by Sin I AM
Not a traditional versus forum bout but I was wondering who if anyone is Supermans' equal? Not forum-wise either I mean in character as displayed in comics....
I'd say that ideally, the Blue Marvel, Majestic, Gladiator or any number of good willed super reactive characters could easily fill Kal's shoes. It's all in the penmanship.
Re: Clarks' Equal......
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Not a traditional versus forum bout but I was wondering who if anyone is Supermans' equal? Not forum-wise either I mean in character as displayed in comics....
I'm not entirely sure of what you mean. But I'd say Orion would be the best candidate for what I think you mean.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Doesn't have the speed feats, and is in Marvel.I've come to the conclusion that he's overhyped.
He's in Marvel.
The OP never suggested any universe. Is there a point to the reason that you broke down, and threw out my suggestions? In a fictional world setting, all of the characters that I mentioned would easily be able to fill Kal's shoes. The Blue Marvel has super speed deal with it. If he can take it to Hyperion using just his fists, or defeating Anti Man, who in turn outfought the Sentry, then I would lay high odds on the Blue Marvel being a super reactive character, just like Superman. Again, this isn't about DC or Marvel, it's about penmanship.
Originally posted by Stoic
The OP never suggested any universe. Is there a point to the reason that you broke down, and threw out my suggestions?
Yes. There is a reason.
You didn't read the OP;
Not a traditional versus forum bout but I was wondering who if anyone is Supermans' equal? Not forum-wise either I mean in character as displayed in comics....
2 of those 3 characters have had no interactions with Superman whatsoever. So they cannot be termed to be displayed as equal to Superman within comics. They are at best able to be argued as equal to Superman 'forum-wise'.
In a fictional world setting, all of the characters that I mentioned would easily be able to fill Kal's shoes. The Blue Marvel has super speed deal with it. If he can take it to Hyperion using just his fists, or defeating Anti Man, who in turn outfought the Sentry, then I would lay high odds on the Blue Marvel being a super reactive character, just like Superman. Again, this isn't about DC or Marvel, it's about penmanship.
Blue Marvel has no super reactive feats whatsoever. And he has no superspeed feats outside of flight speed, and what he's displayed there was fairly pedestrian by herald standards as well.
Fighting people with speed feats by itself does not make you their equal reaction wise. That's just comics needing a conflict. Just as Colossus and Wolverine aren't nanosecond level reaction guys just because they've both landed blows against Gladiator.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Yes. There is a reason.You didn't read the OP;
2 of those 3 characters have had no interactions with Superman whatsoever. So they cannot be termed to be displayed as equal to Superman within comics. They are at best able to be argued as equal to Superman 'forum-wise'.
Blue Marvel has no super reactive feats whatsoever. And he has no superspeed feats outside of flight speed, and what he's displayed there was fairly pedestrian by herald standards as well.
Fighting people with speed feats by itself does not make you their equal reaction wise. That's just comics needing a conflict. Just as Colossus and Wolverine aren't nanosecond level reaction guys just because they've both landed blows against Gladiator.
I guess we will agree to disagree then, A whole lot of what you said was BS. The OP never suggests anything whatsoever to allow you to define anything, and yet you have such an adamant, and descriptive opinion on this particular subject. The OP is far too vague for this type of behavior Cos. You're making it up as you go along.
In a world without Superman, any super reactive/super strong character would be able to fill Superman's boots. Perhaps you should go back and reread the mini that Blue Marvel was in. Superman is replaceable, it's just how other characters are written. Gladiator, Hyperion, Sentry, and many many others could hold it down in Metropolis as well as Superman does.
I don't see Sentry, Hyperion or Gladiator being Superman's equals. Superman has that amazing will of his and he has so much presence. Normally people wouldn't give a shit if any of the marvel trio of clones entered a room, but if it was Superman well...ya get it. I hope.
I think an amalgam of Captain America and Thor would fit the bill.
Originally posted by Zack Fair
I don't see Sentry, Hyperion or Gladiator being Superman's equals. Superman has that amazing will of his and he has so much presence. Normally people wouldn't give a shit if any of the marvel trio of clones entered a room, but if it was Superman well...ya get it. I hope.I think an amalgam of Captain America and Thor would fit the bill.
I agree with this, even though Sentry, Gladiator, and Hyperion are powerful, Superman personality, will power, demeanour is irreplaceable. Gladiator boast to freaking much...he is full of confidence but he is too freaking cocky. Hyperion just sucks and he is cocky as well with an attitude of a teenager, and Sentry, I don't even need to say anything about him. In order to fill Supes shoes, your will power needs to be at 100%, all of these guys fail in that department (even though I can see Sentry and Gladiator breaking Supermans neck).
Originally posted by Zack Fair
I don't see Sentry, Hyperion or Gladiator being Superman's equals. Superman has that amazing will of his and he has so much presence. Normally people wouldn't give a shit if any of the marvel trio of clones entered a room, but if it was Superman well...ya get it. I hope.I think an amalgam of Captain America and Thor would fit the bill.
Only because they aren't written up to Superman's standards, but it does not mean, that they could not operate at the same levels if they were. You see what I mean?