Inconsistencies from The Hulk In THe Avengers movie

I'm talking about the one with Ed.

Yep...your bad

and why should they scrap the Ed Nortman movie?

Originally posted by sweersa
I really enjoyed The Avengers. My really only beef with the Hulk was he was not played by Edward Norton.

I thought the same before I saw the movie.

But honestly now I prefer Ruffalo. Norton makes Banner too cool. Ruffalo plays the better neurotic nerd.

Originally posted by jaden101
Says it all really.

I actually thought it him turning at will was unexpected and a nice twist. My only gripe about the film was having Thanos at the end...It restricts where the next film can go.

lol Restricts, how about opens up, many many door ways? Thanos should have been the Antagonist from the start, Loki, such a waste. My only gripe with this movie is that Thor was glazed over and added only as a second thought. Captain America...,well we all know he had no reason to be in this movie. Hulk and Iron Man. Thank Jon faverue, and Robert Downey jr, for this movie attempt 🙄 naah im just shitting where i eat, it was a great rollercoaster movie. Good guys always, win. Thats the important part.

Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
lol Restricts, how about opens up, many many door ways? Thanos should have been the Antagonist from the start, Loki, such a waste. My only gripe with this movie is that Thor was glazed over and added only as a second thought. Captain America...,well we all know he had no reason to be in this movie. Hulk and Iron Man. Thank Jon faverue, and Robert Downey jr, for this movie attempt 🙄 naah im just shitting where i eat, it was a great rollercoaster movie. Good guys always, win. Thats the important part.

Have you been drinking?

Looks like it....with alot of his posts that he does nowadays.

Nope, no drinking, no drugs..,just observation.

Originally posted by Darth Ray Park
I think Mark Ruffalow was a lot better personally, and that they should try to scrap the Hulk film completely from the Avengers Initiative canon as aside from different actor the original film really, really sucked.

I know you're banned, but I agree.

Ruffalow plays the "timid scientist type but under the surface he's a super genius"-type much better.

Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
lol Restricts, how about opens up, many many door ways? Thanos should have been the Antagonist from the start, Loki, such a waste. My only gripe with this movie is that Thor was glazed over and added only as a second thought. Captain America...,well we all know he had no reason to be in this movie. Hulk and Iron Man. Thank Jon faverue, and Robert Downey jr, for this movie attempt 🙄 naah im just shitting where i eat, it was a great rollercoaster movie. Good guys always, win. Thats the important part.

You haven't been drinking because I agree with you. 😐

Loki such a waste in this ?!?

far from a waste in the movie.

Originally posted by dadudemon

You haven't been drinking because I agree with you. 😐

Yeah but...

YouTube video

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
Black Widow innocent?
You're kinda forgetting that she initially lied to Banner when they first met in India (not Mexico). She said she was alone to peacefully talk Banner into joining the mission. Banner saw through this & knew that a) Widow came with armed back up & b) He clearly did not have a choice with SHIELD interfering with his life.

I see no fault with the Hulk wanting to kill her when he transformed the first time, after all she did represent SHIELD & did lie & manipulate him.

Yeah but because Banner has a good heart and is a kind person that part of him is why The Hulk wont kill people.He may toss them and hurt them but not try and kill them.

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
By Banner saying, "That's my secret, I'm always angry." I didn't see that as a contradiction, I simply took it as something cool to say before going into battle. Like Dirty Harry's, "Make my day." OR Arnie saying, "I'll be back."

As far as Banner morphing in seconds...you're forgetting too when Banner earlier explained how he tried to kill himself once by putting a gun in his mouth..."Then HE spat out the bullet." Obviously based on the situation this version of the Hulk can transform as quickly as the situation needs. I mean the first time he was knocked out unconscious as Banner & when he was slowly regaining his senses, the first things he felt was both pain & then anger, slowly triggering the change to Hulk.

Lastly yes, the Hulk is friendly with the rest of The Avengers...you're forgetting he did come back to join them in battle not to pick a fight with them or even run away from SHIELD & the alien invasion. He chose to stand & fight with them, so yeah that explains why he was friendly & even willing to listen to Cap.

Well I assumed that it was the same kind of slow morph that occured when he Hulked out the first time on the aircraft when that happened.spitting out the bullet.

You didnt seem to understand what i was getting at when he said-Thats my secret.im always angry.That was lame because if he is always angry,then he should always be the hulk.That was just too lame.It would have been far more believable if while that alien monster was flying towards them if it had like maybe swatted a car and the car hit him causing pain of course which would trigger him becoming the hulk.something like that.

something more plausible than that lame-Thats my secret,Im always angry line.they could have come up with something a lot better than that.after all that really was why he was able to keep from being the hulk while in India was it was a stress free environment.Seeing that monster of course coming at him though would trigger that stress so they should have just left it at that.Let the monster trigger the stress which triggers the hulk. 😉

Originally posted by Mr Parker
Well I assumed that it was the same kind of slow morph that occured when he Hulked out the first time on the aircraft when that happened.spitting out the bullet.

You didnt seem to understand what i was getting at when he said-Thats my secret.im always angry.That was lame because if he is always angry,then he should always be the hulk.That was just too lame.It would have been far more believable if while that alien monster was flying towards them if it had like maybe swatted a car and the car hit him causing pain of course which would trigger him becoming the hulk.something like that.

something more plausible than that lame-Thats my secret,Im always angry line.they could have come up with something a lot better than that.after all that really was why he was able to keep from being the hulk while in India was it was a stress free environment.Seeing that monster of course coming at him though would trigger that stress so they should have just left it at that.Let the monster trigger the stress which triggers the hulk. 😉

He shot himself in the mouth with the barrel in his mouth. There was no possibility of a slow morph. Hulk would have had to instantly change to stop him from dying, since a pistol round on average is around 1200 fps. That means if he hadn't changed instantly, the bullet would have been out the back of his head before anything.

And it's very plausible. Him always being angry means he can regulate just how angry he is and control his transformation. He already showed he could do it at will by the end of Hulk(o8), so him doing it now is no surprise.

Originally posted by KingD19
He shot himself in the mouth with the barrel in his mouth. There was no possibility of a slow morph. Hulk would have had to instantly change to stop him from dying, since a pistol round on average is around 1200 fps. That means if he hadn't changed instantly, the bullet would have been out the back of his head before anything.

And it's very plausible. Him always being angry means he can regulate just how angry he is and control his transformation. He already showed he could do it at will by the end of Hulk(o8), so him doing it now is no surprise.

You think maybe, he was being metaphorical? The deleted scene in The Incredible Hulk has Banner trying to shoot himself up in the arctic, but when he gets close to pulling the trigger his heart rate gets fast enough that he hulked out and crushed the handgun. So maybe him saying "I put a bullet in my mouth and the 'other guy' spat it out" was just an effective way of saying in that tense argument scene that he's tried to kill himself to end the Hulk and it doesn't work - just as storing him in that special cell wouldn't work out in the end, either.

This whole thread is a waste of time, when you have the OP openly saying he doesn't even read Hulk comics, and comes here to nitpick. 👇

Originally posted by roughrider
You think maybe, he was being metaphorical? The deleted scene in The Incredible Hulk has Banner trying to shoot himself up in the arctic, but when he gets close to pulling the trigger his heart rate gets fast enough that he hulked out and crushed the handgun. So maybe him saying "I put a bullet in my mouth and the 'other guy' spat it out" was just an effective way of saying in that tense argument scene that he's tried to kill himself to end the Hulk and it doesn't work - just as storing him in that special cell wouldn't work out in the end, either.

This whole thread is a waste of time, when you have the OP openly saying he doesn't even read Hulk comics, and comes here to nitpick. 👇

well yeah I can see him Hulking out before he fires the bullet the way that would stress him out like that doing that and I already knew him being in the cell would not do any good,no need to tell me that as far as the other part though of him saying-thats my secret, im always angry.well according to that logic of his,he should ALWAYS be the hulk. 😆 Its just lame,they could have come up with anything better than that.

And it's very plausible. Him always being angry means he can regulate just how angry he is and control his transformation. He already showed he could do it at will by the end of Hulk(o8), so him doing it now is no surprise.

He implied earlier when he was talking to Stark though that he couldnt control it though when he said to Stark-But you can control it? That sounded to me like he was implying he could not control the hulk the way Stark could with the metal in his gut. Oh and okay then he did that in the comics.Just because he did do that in the comics it still doesnt sit well with me.

Even in the two movie adapatations he had to have a trigger of pain,fear or anger to become the hulk and then all of a sudden they changed it in this movie.Doesnt sit well with me even though it did happen in the comics.

For example just because Gwen Stacy died in the comics,i dont want that to happen in the movies.I know it will but I dont like it.. always hated those a holes when they killed her off and always will.same here,bad idea then and bad idea for him to be able to morph without a trigger all of a sudden now.it just doesnt make sense.

I never could have got into the hulk tv show in the first place if he had just been able to do it at will like superman getting into his costume.It would just seem too corny for even a comicbook character. Thats the same with superman,i could never get into him because i always thought it was corny as hell for people to not to recognize him just because he had on glasses.Well being able to morph anytime he wants quickly sounds just as corny to me.Glad I never read the comic now that i know that.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
-thats my secret, im always angry.well according to that logic of his,he should ALWAYS be the hulk. 😆 Its just lame,they could have come up with anything better than that.

Again...Banner was being metaphorical. He was learning various meditating techniques by the end of TIH, to try and have the Hulk just below the surface, rather than fight desperately to keep him contained like before. Because the Hulk seems to be more out of control when he comes out over Banner's will. He managed to stop Blonsky and save the people in Harlem by willing himself to change, for once. So trying to make a mental accommodation with him was what he was looking to achieve. Saying 'I'm always angry' is his way of saying he's in touch with his inner sociopath (a line from Banner in the climax of The Ultimates vol. 2.)

If someone states "I never read the comicbook" and then goes on to try and rip apart a film based on a comic on the grounds that it didn't follow the comic, it's futile to debate with them. They have an agenda; listening to reason isn't part of it.

Save your keystrokes, people.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
[

something more plausible than that lame-Thats my secret,Im always angry line.they could have come up with something a lot better than that.after all that really was why he was able to keep from being the hulk while in India was it was a stress free environment.Seeing that monster of course coming at him though would trigger that stress so they should have just left it at that.Let the monster trigger the stress which triggers the hulk. 😉 [/B]

Banner ran & hid in India. Being a doctor with a good heart, he was seen helping the sick & poor with limited medicine & medical equipment, much less help...

Seriously do you really think, that's a "stress-free environment"?

Banner would be constantly frustrated in India, feeling like he's losing a battle against the sick, thus the tag, "I'm always angry."

The movie is incredible

Originally posted by KingD19
He shot himself in the mouth with the barrel in his mouth. There was no possibility of a slow morph. Hulk would have had to instantly change to stop him from dying, since a pistol round on average is around 1200 fps. That means if he hadn't changed instantly, the bullet would have been out the back of his head before anything.

And it's very plausible. Him always being angry means he can regulate just how angry he is and control his transformation. He already showed he could do it at will by the end of Hulk(o8), so him doing it now is no surprise.

I like to think his healing factor instantly kicked in as he transformed.