Who could defeat Captain America/w Self-Duplication?

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Originally posted by golem370
I was thinking Hercules or Savage Hulk since he held his own against Namor, Iron Man, Wonder Man and Herc

With no PIS any of these blokes would smash through this collection of Caps.

And this is no slight on Steve, either. I like and respect him as a character.

Originally posted by cdtm
This will probably be unpopular, but:

Peak potential Cassandra Cain.

The fight starts with 5 Caps, the original and 4 dupes; Batgirl would get destroyed.

Agreed, nothing but respect for Cap. Just like Superman, his awesomeness has nothing to do with his win/loss record.

Also, Doc Oct could do it easy enough. Those arms catch Spidey, they shouldn't have much trouble dealing with Cap's shield throws and such..

Originally posted by Silent Master
The fight starts with 5 Caps, the original and 4 dupes; Batgirl would get destroyed.

Disagree. I think based off feats, Cass mows through the Batman/Cap level like a hot knife through butter. You need an Iron Fist to beat her.

Chuckg?

Hmm I'll add Daken and Fantomex to my Shed Lizard guess...

Any luck? lol

Originally posted by cdtm
Disagree. I think based off feats, Cass mows through the Batman/Cap level like a hot knife through butter. You need an Iron Fist to beat her.

Uh, her fights with Batman were not easy. It looked like she had a small edge, but hardly 'hot knife through butter'.

Originally posted by Q99
Uh, her fights with Batman were not easy. It looked like she had a small edge, but hardly 'hot knife through butter'.

I said "based on feats". 😛

From your post in the Cap/Black Wind thread, it sounds like you're familiar with her solo run, so you've seen how crazy her speed feats could get. Bats good, but not "clear room before dozen professional killers standing right next to each other notice anything" good.

One that springs to mind is the meta that was out to murder his boss over being fired, and when Cass sees her battarang isn't going to hit his gun before it fires, she sprints past her battarang and tackles his victim out of the way, all between the muzzle flash and discharge. I'd say that matches Caps speed feat of outsprinting a bullet, and she has a pile more...

So, imo she's faster, and should hit hard enough to do serious damage (One could argue Cap hits harder, but Cass kicked a massive hole in the side of a prison wall. I'm "pretty" sure she can hurt him.

I was looking at Caps respect thread and apparently he dodged bullets while in mid-air and each one of these Captain Americas has their shields which would be a really good defense blunt forced tramua

Originally posted by golem370
I was looking at Caps respect thread and apparently he dodged bullets while in mid-air and each one of these Captain Americas has their shields which would be a really good defense blunt forced tramua

A lot of those are aim dodging, e.g. moving faster than the person firing the gun could aim. Cap does have some examples where he moves faster than an actual bullet flying in mid air.

But Cass has more, and imo, better feats.

Which only reinforces her other feats of ninja like stealth and speed in combat. Feats like knocking out entire groups of people as they stand around like statues, seemingly oblivious that the guy right next to them is knocked cold.

So, how many Caps would it take to beat her..10, 20, 30?

Captain America was able to hold his own in a fight with Thor who is superhuman in strength speed and durability so he has feats like that.

Aoe users like human torch and red tornado

Its a hand to hand thread

Originally posted by golem370
Captain America was able to hold his own in a fight with Thor who is superhuman in strength speed and durability so he has feats like that.

If that's not PIS, than I get to use Cass hurting Supergirl. 😉

Originally posted by Silent Master
Batgirl would get destroyed.

BG would give him a good go. But I totally agree with you.

Cap would defeat her the majority of the times.

It takes the powersets of the Midnighters or the Wolverines of universes to take a majority over Cap.

And Cass is not....that.

Has Cass ever beaten 2 elite street level characters at once?

Nightcrawler??

Two pages, and no one mentions the obvious:

Iron Fist.

Iron Fist vs 5 Captain Americas and if he doesn't drop them in 30 seconds another one shows up?