Thanos vs. Validus

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
1. Fair enough, I would say it's not in character for him to do so, and especially not from the jump. I wouldn't however totally eliminate it as a possibility. Thanos is one of the smartest most resourceful people in coimcs.. If he saw physicallity wasn't cutting it, he would do WHATEvER it took to win.

2. That would be a safe assumption and why I brought up energy based attacks. I listed people more powerful than Validus, who couldn't put him down via something he's shown to be more vulnerable to. This doesn't mean I'm saying he couldn't be put down physically. What I am saying is, that if these potent energy based attacks couldn't put him down, then you would have to believe Validus physical attacks (which he's never been KO'd by and not sure to be as vulnerable to) would have to be several levels above those energy attacks. That is where I strongly disagree. I don't think he's physical attacks are beyond them. Do you?

3. See no. 2 for why

4. You said he fought mindless and animalistic... This was largely because of the universe he was in was having a negative affect on his mind. Do you actually believe the OP wanted Thanos to fight in a universe that was negatively effecting him? I don't.

5. So what are you saying here.. That Thanos not being KO'd by the IG slap from Magus wasn't impressive and PIS? I don't get your point here.. Nobody is saying Magus couldn't have killed Thanos with a thought... The point is, and I'll ask you... Do you think by showing somebody killed by a similar strike from Magus and Thanos not being killed.. isn't it pretty obvious he was showing that to be pretty impressive by Thanos?

2.) Like I said before, in comics the ability to tank energy is in no way indicative of what a character can tank physically. Again: Superboy Prime tanked universe-busting energies exploding in his face, AND pure anti-matter energy, totally unscathed--yet he was harmed by punches from Connor (who obviously doesn't pack universe-busting+ power behind each punch.) Feel me?

3.) The thread starter made it a point to specify that only TI Thanos is to be used here... And TI Thanos was depicted exactly as I said. But like I mentioned: even if this were pre-TI Thanos, he'd fight Val just like he fought Odin and Tyrant--brawling mixed with energy attacks... Tactics of which I still don't see affecting Val, based on HIS durability showings. /shrug

4.) Thanos withstanding a slap from Magus /w/ IG is no more impressive than Thor and Firelord withstanding strikes from Thanos /w/ IG. Regardless of them enduring said strikes, I certainly do not believe Thor/Firelord can tank punches from Val--just like I don't believe Thanos can tank punches from Val.

2. I have never said they are the same so I'm not why you keep repeating this... but using the example you used... clearly Prime seemed to have better durability to energy than physical force. So using your example... which attack do you think would likely have a greater chance to hurt hiim based on his history... clearly physical. I would agree. Doesn't mean energy can't, but he's shown greater resistance to energy than physical based on showings. Now, Thanos is the opposite.. he's shown greater resistance to physical attacks than energy... thus if Thanos has tanked energy attacks from being more powerful than Validus, do you see how I have a hard time believing physical attacks would put him down? Just like you would believe energy attacks would have less chance to put prime down. Now are you understanding my point?

4. The differences are very apparent and I know you're aware of them... First Thanos was putting on a show for death and giving them a chance... Magus was not putting on any show for Thanos. Next, the writer had Magus killed somebody with a similar blow in one shot and then try it on Thanos... How can you not say this was to clearly show how durable Thanos was. Thanos never hit Thor or firelord with anything he hit others with and killed them. Clear differences.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
2. I have never said they are the same so I'm not why you keep repeating this... but using the example you used... clearly Prime seemed to have better durability to energy than physical force. So using your example... which attack do you think would likely have a greater chance to hurt hiim based on his history... clearly physical. I would agree. Doesn't mean energy can't, but he's shown greater resistance to energy than physical based on showings. Now, Thanos is the opposite.. he's shown greater resistance to physical attacks than energy... thus if Thanos has tanked energy attacks from being more powerful than Validus, do you see how I have a hard time believing physical attacks would put him down? Just like you would believe energy attacks would have less chance to put prime down. Now are you understanding my point?

4. The differences are very apparent and I know you're aware of them... First Thanos was putting on a show for death and giving them a chance... Magus was not putting on any show for Thanos. Next, the writer had Magus killed somebody with a similar blow in one shot and then try it on Thanos... How can you not say this was to clearly show how durable Thanos was. Thanos never hit Thor or firelord with anything he hit others with and killed them. Clear differences.

2.) In the sense that you are trying to apply said feat, there's no difference between them. Each character withstood strikes from an infinity gauntlet wielder--and that certainly doesn't lead me to believe any of them can tank punches from Val.

So you wouldn't say Prime is more durable against Energy attacks than Physical?

A far as displayed feats are concerned, yes, Prime's ability to withstand energy attacks is FAR superior to what we've seen him tank physically. FAR superior to what we've seen Thanos tank as well (ie. Thanos was disintegrated by anti-matter energy, whereas Prime flew right through it without sustaining so much as a scratch.)

Regardless, it's not like I'm saying Prime can tank Validus' punches--Val is WAY above Prime from a physical standpoint. I was just using his showings as an example to blatantly depict the difference in character durability between energy attacks, and physical attacks.

Originally posted by Merlyn
This is the only time I'll ask, quanchi. Do NOT troll in my thread any more. If you do so again, you will be reported.

Originally posted by Galan007
FAR superior to what we've seen Thanos tank as well (ie. Thanos was disintegrated by anti-matter energy, whereas Prime flew right through it without sustaining so much as a scratch.)

Thanos beats Post Crisis Val decisively.

Loses to the other PC Validus.

Originally posted by cdtm
Mon El almost [b]knocked himself out charging Validus.

Thanos gets manhandled. [/B]

Manhandle, is understatement of the year! PC Validus=Classic Mangog walking engine of destruction, Thanos would need a artifact big time!! Thanos TI is not PC Darkseid sad too say 🙁 .

PC Validus one shot Mon-el to the Moon, was unfazed by PC Ultraboy,PC Mon-el, PC Superboy.. His mind is like "chaos lighting" stated by Saturn girl something like that, cant remember! Only being that punk PC Validus is PC Darkseid, and PC Darkseid is far more powerful than Thanos TI period.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Well, if Thanos offensively and defensively uses teleportation, he could make things difficult for Validus to attack him. At absolute best case scenario, that would just be a draw for Thanos.

And if Thanos does fight on Validus' "level" so to speak, he's getting his face pounded in. Applying a grossly absurd "no limits fallacy" on Thanos is, frankly, pretty ridiculous here. "He's never been KOed by blunt force trauma so why should I believe PC Validus has the means to do so?" Seriously? Validus, as mentioned before, one shots top tier beings without exerting effort. Physically, that's within Thanos range and that's being pretty generous. You don't think Thanos is immune to being KOed, do you?

Hell to the no!!
Classic Mangog
PC Validus
PC Darkseid
PC Shaggy Man
Classic Odin are far beyond Thanos TI in power and might!!

Thanos is NOT the most powerful character in comics. He is not unbeatable and it does not take a Universe-Destroyer to defeat him.

There are tiers of characters that are above Thanos and to try and force a forum victory for him, against those beings that are more dangerous than he is, just makes this whole thing a miserable experience.

^^^^^ There are plenty of people that can beat Thanos and I say so freely all the time... Dumb, slow moving bricks aren't some of them.

Originally posted by guy222

VENNI VETTI VALIDUS!

I just read all three pages, I still don't understand why KT, was bringing up TP when Abhi and Galan showed that Validus was unaffected by saturn girl. So who cares if Thanos used or didn't use TP in TI because it wasn't going to work on PC Validus.
Furthermore the OP indicated that this is TI thanos, he is going to brawl first and then use tp second regardless if he has the ability or not and if he did use it, there is enough proof to show that it wasn't going to work on PC validus. Thanos dies and gives up reforming to save himself the trouble of dying again.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi

Lastly, lets say he could "kill" Thanos with punches with him fighting stupid... because we all know if he fought smart.. Validus wouldn't touch him... but lets say Thanos allowed this to happen and he beat him to death (which by the way Thanos has NEVER been KO'd via punches... this is taking shots from amped Thor with his hammer... taking shots from Magus WITH THE IG... shots from Tyrant and Odin.. etc etc.. NOTHING EVER KO'd him let alone killed him) but lets say he fought dumb and somethign happened that never has... Thanos would INSTANTLY reform.. then what? It's not a win... So what then... Thanos everntually outlast him no?

Doesn't have to die. Teeth beat into his throat would count as a win also.

PC Validus will beat Thanos period, as much I like Thanos this version of Validus almost rivals SA Mangog, and that says a lot about Validus. Thanos wouldn't be able to slow him down, only person Validus was afriad of was PC Darkseid who devolved him, and PC Darkseid was a peer of Classic Odin.

Originally posted by Horrificus
hi guy. is that something current?