Stoic is my boy, but damn Wtf kind of proof do you need? He provided a scan of great beasts hacking up the Chaos King and they weren't even at full power yet. He was powerless to stop them at that. The point being that much as Banner can go from Wwh to wbh quickly, Snowbird can go to a great beast quickly and that beast would be greater in formidabilty than the Hulk.
Also a more subtle point but something to be considered nonetheless, Alpha Flight, with full knowledge of who the CK was and more to the point what he had done and continued to do, choose to let him live as opposed to allowing the Great Beasts to fully emerge. Even knowing that several beloved members would return to the afterlife because of the broken deal. Written as such by no less than Pak. That those phuckers choose death and the Chaos King, rather then the hell that the great beasts would wrought tells me all that I need to know about how insanely powerful and cruel those beasts are.
Originally posted by dmills
Stoic is my boy, but damn Wtf kind of proof do you need? He provided a scan of great beasts hacking up the Chaos King and they weren't even at full power yet. He was powerless to stop them at that. The point being that much as Banner can go from Wwh to wbh quickly, Snowbird can go to a great beast quickly and that beast would be greater in formidabilty than the Hulk.Also a more subtle point but something to be considered nonetheless, Alpha Flight, with full knowledge of who the CK was and more to the point what he had done and continued to do, choose to let him live as opposed to allowing the Great Beasts to fully emerge. Even knowing that several beloved members would return to the afterlife because of the broken deal. Written as such by no less than Pak. That those phuckers choose death and the Chaos King, rather then the hell that the great beasts would wrought tells me all that I need to know about how insanely powerful and cruel those beasts are.
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Lol let me get this straight:
K-M: Snowbird can turn into one of the Great Beasts
Stoic: Hulk can blitz her at near lightspeed, especially as Hulk knows about her and what she can do. Also, he had sex with Umar, so has some degree of magical resistance. And then, even if she DOES turn into a Great Beast, what strength feats do these guys have? None. So after weighing everything equally, Hulk wins.
Riiiight. Next time, I'm going to do DCnU Aquaman vs LT, pure strength feats alone.
I am at a loss. I am not and never was impressed with CK's physical strength. He was a flash in the pan character surrounded by other unknown supers out there. For all I know the beings that were fighting hit with sub class 100 strength. My point was always, who can you compare them to? Zeus and the other pantheons were susceptible to CK's dark powers, or whatever the hell it was that he shot out as tendrils (another void like character), Atum weakens deities, what does all of this have to do with the Hulk, he is not a mystical well. WWHulk was just a story, World Breaker is just a title, the Green Scar was the name, that grew to the Green King, all titles of Bruce Banner. Since when do titles replace the person? They were all the same character, Bob, and the Void were two distinct characters.
The only thing that I saw in -KM's- scans were a bunch of never before seens running around warring. Each one of those guys running around, may not have been even close to the equivalence of the Hulk at a high end level, in terms of power. This is why I'm saying big deal. The Savage Hulk alone was always considered to be a heavy weight, which was an inferior incarnation of the Hulk of the past 7 years. Just something to think about.
Originally posted by Stoic
I am at a loss. I am not and never was impressed with CK's physical strength. He was a flash in the pan character surrounded by other unknown supers out there. For all I know the beings that were fighting hit with sub class 100 strength. My point was always, who can you compare them to? Zeus and the other pantheons were susceptible to CK's dark powers, or whatever the hell it was that he shot out as tendrils (another void like character), Atum weakens deities, what does all of this have to do with the Hulk, he is not a mystical well. WWHulk was just a story, World Breaker is just a title, the Green Scar was the name, that grew to the Green King, all titles of Bruce Banner. Since when do titles replace the person? They were all the same character, Bob, and the Void were two distinct characters.The only thing that I saw in -KM's- scans were a bunch of never before seens running around warring. Each one of those guys running around, may not have been even close to the equivalence of the Hulk at a high end level, in terms of power. This is why I'm saying big deal. The Savage Hulk alone was always considered to be a heavy weight, which was an inferior incarnation of the Hulk of the past 7 years. Just something to think about.
Prior to their confrontation would you have said that Zeus was physically stronger than the Hulk? What feats would you have based this on?
Chaos king needs feats of strength to prove what exactly? At that level of power they typically don't go around flexing physical muscle, but when they do its usually pretty impressive. Stoic you have to understand that you're approaching this in a way that forum rules never intended. A feats only approach I mean. If you go back and read the forum rules section there are several factors that contribute to the whole. Feats certainly play a role, but aren't the L'alpha et l'omega. If we took that approach we could reach some truly zany conclusions.