Superman in the New 52

Started by -Pr-16 pages

Originally posted by SMIFF-N-WESSON
Shame on you PR, using such expression in a friendly debate.

The only one getting irate is you.

Not irate, just lacking any more patience.

If there was anything friendly about it, I wouldn't have to. Your baiting doesn't help matters either.

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Guys, move on from the power source debate. It's not going anywhere.

I can see the baiting a mile away, Pr, that is why I did not responded.

But if they keep bringing this up, they are going to bait others into it.

Sorry if this sounds like baiting. But honestly they should move on.

Rao, just move on pls.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Rao, just move on pls.

I do not want to keep on the topic. Im just bringing it to light, that they might bait others to it. And honestly and I think you can see it too, that is what, they seem to be experts at. Read their comments disguised as opinions and they are just baiting people into debate with them.

You know what, i think you are smart enough to see that.

That is all I'm saying to it. No more about it.

Are you putting the new respect thread together for This superman?

I am re readin from byrne till dos and i want to put a respect thread together eventually of post crisis superman, is there any way i can do it on 3 parts so i will be able to edit?

With the 15 minute editing rule, making respect threads that are updatable is a horrible task right now.

Your best bet is to get everything organised, then just copy and paste it in to posts in the thread you make. the respect thread on herochat is a good example of that.

Originally posted by -Pr-
With the 15 minute editing rule, making respect threads that are updatable is a horrible task right now.

Your best bet is to get everything organised, then just copy and paste it in to posts in the thread you make. the respect thread on herochat is a good example of that.

That is what i did not anted to do. I wanted to start bringing them up already, but i rather then just finish collecting all the feats and then show them

Yeah. On KMC that's just not possible, sadly. Unless you happen to mod that forum lol

looks like o'l geoff johns plans on breaking up supes and wonderwoman in his new fanboy script avengers vs x-me...i mean the trinity war.

i bet this turns into some sort of "baby" crisis vice a full on one.

Originally posted by jedi90
looks like o'l geoff johns plans on breaking up supes and wonderwoman in his new fanboy script avengers vs x-me...i mean the trinity war.

i bet this turns into some sort of "baby" crisis vice a full on one.

Why did you have to bring the X-men Vs Avengers fir? You're so called witty comment is not that witty at all.

Believe it or not, DC has already done an even like that back in the days, way before Marvel tought of one called TT Vs the JL.

Originally posted by SquallX
Why did you have to bring the X-men Vs Avengers fir? You're so called witty comment is not that witty at all.

Believe it or not, DC has already done an even like that back in the days, way before Marvel tought of one called TT Vs the JL.

apparently you thought it was witty.

the justice league beating up on their sidekicks is hardly a comparison.

regardless , johns writes like a rabid fanboy and i'm sure his latest trite (trinity war) is suppose to clean up his mess.

Considering there is a Superman/Wonder Woman ongoing team up book scheduled for release in October, I think that their relationship is probably going to go through a rough patch during Trinity War, but they won't split up.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Considering there is a Superman/Wonder Woman ongoing team up book scheduled for release in October, I think that their relationship is probably going to go through a rough patch during Trinity War, but they won't split up.

unless johns plots this series himself, he'll just sh*t all over it later. that man has no respect for the other creative writers at DC unless it fits into his fanboy view point.

Originally posted by jedi90
unless johns plots this series himself, he'll just sh*t all over it later. that man has no respect for the other creative writers at DC unless it fits into his fanboy view point.

I wouldn't go that far.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I wouldn't go that far.

really?

i have to disagree. johns didn't' even have enough integrity to retcon his own pre 52 stories but it was fine for everyone else.

Originally posted by jedi90
really?

i have to disagree. johns didn't' even have enough integrity to retcon his own pre 52 stories but it was fine for everyone else.

Morrison's Batman stuff stayed, too, (for the most part). And really, if you think about it, the Batman and GL line of books were easily the most popular and best selling books DC was putting out, so from a business stand point it makes sense that the "spirit of continuity" of these books remain the same. They also happened to be the characters used to open up the Justice League relaunch, too.

That's just my personal theory, though.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Morrison's Batman stuff stayed, too, (for the most part). And really, if you think about it, the Batman and GL line of books were easily the most popular and best selling books DC was putting out, so from a business stand point it makes sense that the "spirit of continuity" of these books remain the same. They also happened to be the characters used to open up the Justice League relaunch, too.

That's just my personal theory, though.

here's the thing. batman books always sell well, that's a gimme, hence why he has so many titles then and now.

honestly i think johns let morrison keep his continuity just to appease him to stay.

remember, the purpose of the new 52 REBOOT was suppose to be a new starting point for new readers and bring a sense of freshness for older readers. you can't start over if everyone else's stories starts over but yours stays the same regardless of the loopholes it creates.

johns deciding to keep his stories in continuity but disregard everyone else' is a slap int the face to all the hard work those writers and artist put in years ahead of his "creative plans"

Johns kept GL in continuity because he'd just spent what, 8 years? Building an entire mythos for GL. Starting again didn't really seem practical.

It's not someone like, say, Superman, that needed some freshening up.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Johns kept GL in continuity because he'd just spent what, 8 years? Building an entire mythos for GL. Starting again didn't really seem practical.

It's not someone like, say, Superman, that needed some freshening up.

the same can be said about the other writers there who spent an insane amount of time building upon the mythos of the characters they were working on.

that' was one of my main complaints about johns. unless you read eight years worth of his GL fanzines you wouldn't understand jack sh*t of anything happening in the GL 52 books.

i liked george perez but after i heard the problems he had with just getting some basic info from johns or morrison on supes it didn't surprise me that he ended up leaving.

Nobody had done what Johns had done as recently as Johns had done. He was alone in that he'd spent the last few years up until the reboot, rebooting Green Lantern. It would have been pointless to reboot GL all over again, imo.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Nobody had done what Johns had done as recently as Johns had done. He was alone in that he'd spent the last few years up until the reboot, rebooting Green Lantern. It would have been pointless to reboot GL all over again, imo.

nothing against you but that is a really poor excuse if that is his sole reason. to think that his stories are above the interest of the company and the integrity of its characters just proves he is a selfish a-hole.

reboots or retcons are common with the big two. these characters will be with DC long after he is gone. this was their more recent chance to attract new readers and replenish their reader base with a clear starting point. he mucked that up.