All I could think of, tbh.
Originally posted by Nietzschean
so if Psylocke can be overloaded with her opponents hypersenses shouldnt she have had the same reaction from guys like Wolverine and Sabretooth too?
😬Wolverine and sabre have a predatory nature which makes them view certain ppl as prey. Wolverine also had longer time learning to confront his senses and is in constant pain due to his hyper awareness that would make Matt seem like he just has a scraped knee.
I know man, I mentioned that in the other thread. Bullsh*t, that's what this "fight" is.
I just checked and it was written by Remender (the guy that used to write the DR Punisher/Frankencastle and now writes Uncanny X-Force). His Psylocke had no trouble using TP on Logan or AoA Creed. It makes no sense.
For some reason (movie success?) Marvel horribly jobs out X-Men to Avengers. Hell, Betsy is lucky the fight ended up as a stalemate...
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I know man, I mentioned that in the other thread. Bullsh*t, that's what this "fight" is.I just checked and it was written by Remender (the guy that used to write the DR Punisher/Frankencastle and now writes Uncanny X-Force). His Psylocke had no trouble using TP on Logan or AoA Creed. It makes no sense.
For some reason (movie success?) Marvel horribly jobs out X-Men to Avengers. Hell, Betsy is lucky the fight ended up as a stalemate...
DD does have crazy heightened senses other than smell... plus he has that radar thingy that prolly shocked the hell out of her.
I think its funny that the writers weren't tasked with reading up on the X-Men before they wrote this event. Bru's story directly states that Gambit can't charge organic material. Brubaker, one of the best in the business, who wrote the f@cking X-Men for years, doesn't even know what the character can do.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
DD does have crazy heightened senses other than smell... plus he has that radar thingy that prolly shocked the hell out of her.
So do Logan and Creed.
Matt's radar sense was redeveloped via training after he lost it, so actually it shouldn't be a hard trick for a telepathic ninja to copy from his mind...
So what exactly do people think went wrong in the fight?
I mean Psylocke being shocked by the senses was interesting, but not unexpected. I mean Wolverine has great senese, I'm pretty sure Daredevil's are better though. I don't know Wolverine's feats, but I remember he wasn't able to sniff out Omega Red behind a bush (maybe 20 yards away) because a truck was clouding his sense of smell. That would never happen to DareDevil. This is probably a low showing, but it's the only one I can remember right now.
Psylocke could've ended the fight easily had she been bloodlusted, but she wasn't..which pretty much leaves her with only hand-to-hand, and it's accepted that DD is the better fighter.
Originally posted by Trackz
So what exactly do people think went wrong in the fight?I mean Psylocke being shocked by the senses was interesting, but not unexpected. I mean Wolverine has great senese, I'm pretty sure Daredevil's are better though. I don't know Wolverine's feats, but I remember he wasn't able to sniff out Omega Red behind a bush (maybe 20 yards away) because a truck was clouding his sense of smell. That would never happen to DareDevil. This is probably a low showing, but it's the only one I can remember right now.
Psylocke could've ended the fight easily had she been bloodlusted, but she wasn't..which pretty much leaves her with only hand-to-hand, and it's accepted that DD is the better fighter.
Now you've gone too far. Wolverine's sense of smell is much better, as seen in Infinity War when he detected the doppelgangers.
TP attack should've worked on Daredevil, period. Betsy stating she can't beat him h2h is ridiculous - she's been trained by Ogun. It ain't classic Psylocke.
Also, there's a fact that Remender writes her without TK...
Originally posted by Trackzactually similar stuff has happen to Daredevil too... 🙄
So what exactly do people think went wrong in the fight?I mean Psylocke being shocked by the senses was interesting, but not unexpected. I mean Wolverine has great senese, I'm pretty sure Daredevil's are better though. I don't know Wolverine's feats, but I remember he wasn't able to sniff out Omega Red behind a bush (maybe 20 yards away) because a truck was clouding his sense of smell. That would never happen to DareDevil. This is probably a low showing, but it's the only one I can remember right now.
Psylocke could've ended the fight easily had she been bloodlusted, but she wasn't..which pretty much leaves her with only hand-to-hand, and it's accepted that DD is the better fighter.
wolverine has snucked up on DD and DD was unable to "see" constrictor who was right in front of him when he teamed up with Gambit. Constrictor was like 20-50 ft away from him on a train.
Wolverine Senses are roughly equal to DD minus his hearing but wolverine can also focus his senses to build a rough radar sense without DD's specific training to do so.
wolverine's hypersenses is that his sense of touch is so acute he suffers from phantom pains and can feel every cut, breeze on his body. plus, the adamantium makes it worse sense it is a constant excruciating pain he learned to ignore even thought it is still there..
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWI just realized that Xavier once piggybacked on Wolverine's brain and he had to shut himself out from Wolverine's senses since it was overloading Xavier from a stimulant overload..
Now you've gone too far. Wolverine's sense of smell is much better, as seen in Infinity War when he detected the doppelgangers.TP attack should've worked on Daredevil, period. Betsy stating she can't beat him h2h is ridiculous - she's been trained by Ogun. It ain't classic Psylocke.
Also, there's a fact that Remender writes her without TK...
Ogun had a similar experience too.. 😛
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Now you've gone too far. Wolverine's sense of smell is much better, as seen in Infinity War when he detected the doppelgangers.TP attack should've worked on Daredevil, period. Betsy stating she can't beat him h2h is ridiculous - she's been trained by Ogun. It ain't classic Psylocke.
Also, there's a fact that Remender writes her without TK...
Hmm you're probably right. What's Wolverine's very best feat in that area? Smelling a doppleganger seems pretty tame, I feel like most feral heroes do that.
I mean she didn't do terribly, Daredevil is one of marvel's best hand-to-hand fighters though.
Originally posted by Nietzschean
actually similar stuff has happen to Daredevil too... 🙄wolverine has snucked up on DD and DD was unable to "see" constrictor who was right in front of him when he teamed up with Gambit. Constrictor was like 20-50 ft away from him on a train.
Wolverine Senses are roughly equal to DD minus his hearing but wolverine can also focus his senses to build a rough radar sense without DD's specific training to do so.
wolverine's hypersenses is that his sense of touch is so acute he suffers from phantom pains and can feel every cut, breeze on his body. plus, the adamantium makes it worse sense it is a constant excruciating pain he learned to ignore even thought it is still there..
I thought the adamantium pains stopped after he got his second coating.
Mmm. What sets the feat apart for Wolverine in my mind is that Wolverine recognized that there was someone there hiding, and just couldn't make out the scent. I feel like it's a bit different when someone surprises you.
Originally posted by Trackz
Hmm you're probably right. What's Wolverine's very best feat in that area? Smelling a doppleganger seems pretty tame, I feel like most feral heroes do that.I mean she didn't do terribly, Daredevil is one of marvel's best hand-to-hand fighters though.
He has quite a few, hard to choose. He often uses it as a lie-detector, much like Matt does with his hearing. The point is that Daredevil was in the same room and couldn't smell them, had to use the radar sense to check if Logan was right. In the old book Matt himself conceded Wolverine might be better in that area, too...
He's good, but not good enough to best post-Ogun Psylocke. Have you read Psylocke mini? The one written by Yost? She fought Wolverine there, now that was a fight. Murdock wouldn't last a second 😛
Originally posted by Trackz
I thought the adamantium pains stopped after he got his second coating.Mmm. What sets the feat apart for Wolverine in my mind is that Wolverine recognized that there was someone there hiding, and just couldn't make out the scent. I feel like it's a bit different when someone surprises you.
It didn't. Apoc was supposed to remove the adamantium poisoning iirc, but the following writers ignored that...
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He has quite a few, hard to choose. He often uses it as a lie-detector, much like Matt does with his hearing. The point is that Daredevil was in the same room and couldn't smell them, had to use the radar sense to check if Logan was right. In the old book Matt himself conceded Wolverine might be better in that area, too...He's good, but not good enough to best post-Ogun Psylocke. Have you read Psylocke mini? The one written by Yost? She fought Wolverine there, now that was a fight. Murdock wouldn't last a second 😛
No denying that, I thought it was agreed that if Psylocke was going for blood, Daredevil wouldn't last a minute.