Originally posted by Lord Lucien
And yet it insists on being so damn orderly.
As orderly as debt and your good ole' slave plantation owner.
Just swallow the orders.
Anyway, I find it difficult to believe that one man can live his whole life trying to support his family in hard labor, doing good at the expense of misery, until a fork-lift accident leaves him in a mutilated state, unable to support family...while some lazy bastard can sit at home and order laborers to do stuff for her.
You see that to me isn't very fair, I don't see the sense or the reason.
Or out of a group of soldiers, the youngest who has the most to live for dies. 'God works in mysterious ways'? Down syndrome is the work of chaos, failed replication of DnA during meitosis, not God.
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
You said the "universe" is chaos, not the human notions of fairness are chaos. Which they are. They are also arbitrary.
The universe is a shooting gallery of heat and lack thereof, it's nothingness...there's no more order in that than the gruesome scenarios that victims befall.
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
The universe can't be a shooting gallery and nothingness. It's one or the other.
Ah, but it can be meaningless beyond meaningless interpretations of meaningless people. The conscious observer applies meaning to chaos, makes its own symmetry out of asymmetry. Once it understands this fact, it achieves meta-perspective - which can aid in emotional intelligence (control of emotions during decision making). It also helps remove superstition and credulity, but as with me it can leave you a little empty inside most of the time.
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
The conscious observer also decides what is chaos and what isn't. Decides what is or isn't symmetrical and decides whether is should or shouldn't be.
And beyond that perspective, there is no perspective. Thus chaos, nothing to make sense of anything. No rhyme or reason.
Originally posted by 753
ok, but isn't all that completely speculative? how do you figure causation actually functions?
Well, that's a bit more difficult to explain. You can argue that by definition causation cannot be proved, but if we adhere to a more or less deterministic set of physic laws, it really doesn't make much of a difference. If the universe is deterministic, causation does exist in a fashion, arguably every bit of the universe already contains all the effects it will produce.
So well, I'm sort of assuming a deterministic model, causation serves the propose of providing an analog replacement of free will in a deterministic model, because at any point in time, you're already you and your identity its entirely defined, you've already doomed yourself, but at the same time you feel as if you will be actively dooming yourself and your doom is already affecting you to go into its path. You're don't succeed because you're cocky, you're cocky because you already succeeded. Or something to that effect.
But as many things regarding possible metaphysics, it's obviously speculation, I mean, there can be no proof.
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Destiny is a notion that people either interpret as where they've ended up, or where they think they're going to end up. Useless, either way.
But there. My point entirely. However, I do believe in self-fulfilling prophecies. I believe that putting yourself in a certain destiny effects how you act greatly enough to influence your actual fate. Which is badass as ****.
And don't call the kettle black.
Guilty as charged.
It's picking an end-goal and wanting to get there. People can mix it up with predestination/fate and fancy it to be a grander venture than it really is. So when they say "But it is my destiny", it's really just saying they want to have/be something/where/one. Pretty basic. Shame some need to glorify or romanticize their desires in order to feel spurred to/justified in acquiring them.
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
It's picking an end-goal and wanting to get there. People can mix it up with predestination/fate and fancy it to be a grander venture than it really is. So when they say "But it is my destiny", it's really just saying they want to have/be something/where/one. Pretty basic. Shame some need to glorify or romanticize their desires in order to feel spurred to/justified in acquiring them.
Emotional arousal via the excitement of fulfilling a destiny adds vigor AND confidence to the mind, and increases cognitive performance, both immediately and over time.
The one who tricks his/herself the most improves more quickly.
Compounding that is focus, shutting off everything else. A thing my condition excels at.
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Hyponymy. If that were true, every delusional fool would be magnificent.
There are levels of delusional. Some people are able and willing (in my case eager) to face the demon of inferiority without losing their resolve, and perhaps conquer it. When that happens, there's an angel of capability waiting to endow them.
The human mind is capable of quite a bit of folding and revision and acceptance and yet resilience and inexorable improvements. It's capable of changing. It could be ever-adaptive.