Mass Shooting in Colorado

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What is with his hair?

Spent all his money on weapons and the yellow was cheaper than blue?

Originally posted by BackFire
Epic fakery by that guy. Trying to play his way to an insanity defense.

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Originally posted by Robtard

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I think so too. It turns out he was really smart, one of his friends said that he would show up too class not take notes and get A's... that or he cheated.

Originally posted by rudester
I think so too. It turns out he was really smart, one of his friends said that he would show up too class not take notes and get A's... that or he cheated.

to be fair, that is a learning style more than it is intelligence

Originally posted by Oliver North
to be fair, that is a learning style more than it is intelligence

True. Does anyone else think he kinda looks like Jackson Rathbones? I saw the video, it appears to look like he has no remorse over what happend? Sad really.

He's shown himself to be cunning and intelligent. Not a stretch to think that he's also manipulative. That's what I think he's doing here, trying to manipulate people.

Yeah, I don't know whether insanity will play enough to get him out of the death penalty. The uni bomber was out of his gourd, this guy just seems to be trying to save himself from the chair.

He booby trapped his house, dressed like S.W.A.T. so that he could escape, spent two months arming himself and who knows how much time actually planning this all out. I don't think too much can get him out of the chair, but time will tell.

The guy needs to be locked up for the rest of his life, in my opinion.

1) planning and manipulation are not mutually exclusive with insanity.

2) most mental hospitals are worse than prison. I think an argument can be made that being tranquilized on anti-psychotics until the body wastes away is worse than being electrocuted.

Originally posted by Oliver North
Not that I have any real idea of what happened, but it seems he might have had a sort of "moment of insanity" type of deal... maybe explains why he didn't shoot back at the cops? who knows...

He spent two month stockpiling ammunition. I have a hard time seeing this is not being planned.

touche

Originally posted by Oliver North
So, I was in North Dakota for a conference when this happened. For a laugh, my girlfriend and I had been listening to conservative talk radio for the 4-5 hour drive to and from Fargo from Winnipeg (at least on the American side of the border, we switched that shit back to CBC immediately once we got north of the 49). The station was FLAG AM 1100, supporting "Faith, Family, Freedom and Free Enterprise".

I can't imagine it is going to surprise anyone that I and the Tea Party crowd disagree on most things, but I did want to share an awesome part of the experience of hearing this news event covered by batshit insane individuals.

So, the obvious:

- Laura Ingraham knows karate and has escape routes planned from every building she is ever in because she expects the unexpected (she teaches her kids to do this too)

- the theater's policy of not allowing concealed weapons into the theater was responsible for so many people dying

- the media loves it when white people shoot other people but wont report on the Fort Hood shootings [this I actually don't understand as I followed that in real time back in '09 on American media outlets] for fear of upsetting Muslims

- Laura Ingraham does not have the capacity to understand why Barack Obama would suspend his campaign for a day or why Romney would pull political ads in Aurora in the wake of the shooting

but...

what was really amazing was her reaction to a morning talk show that mentioned someone with the same name as the shooter was scheduled to attend a Tea Party rally of some type. I sympathize with her criticism that, even if the shooter was a Tea Party member, this is generally irrelevant unless it comes out that the attack was politically motivated.

However...

Ingraham quite literally spent the next 3 hours playing the most amazing game of "I know you are but what am I?" in the most immature way possible.

Her argument basically boiled down to this:

- It is irresponsible to say he was a member of the Tea Party

- The Batman film portrayed the people of Gotham as rabble

- The rabble is an allegory for the 99%, Batman is the 1%

- Internet trolls were angry that some people gave the film a bad review

- Therefore, the Batman film inspired anger and violence in the 99% because they were mad it got bad reviews or they were mad at how they were portrayed (she moved back and forth between these positions frequently)

- The tactical armor the shooter was wearing was black

- The black bloc wears black

- Gas masks are also a part of the black bloc attire

- The black bloc is the military wing of the Occupy movement

- Occupy caused the shooting

Now, she would say things like "we don't know for sure yet, but..." and so on, the same way conspiracy theorists say "I'm just asking questions", however, the implication was really clear. She was pissed that someone would associate guns with the Tea Party, so she insisted it was actually Occupy that was to blame (even though nobody blamed the Tea Party, just mentioned something they found online possibly linking the shooter to an event). That the Tea Party also are upset by the 1% and could be included in the metaphorical "rabble" of the film is ignored, among many other factual things, and she yelled for the half of her program that wasn't constant commercial breaks.

Anyways, the minute we got back to Canada, CBC did a news recap of the shooting, where I learned several things that 3 hours of Ingraham didn't teach me, for instance, which guns were used and other sort of "facts" about the event. So ya, fun story, made me chuckle. I know very few people actually listen to talk radio, and the average age is something like 65, but man...

God bless America

She sounds very annoying. I would not be able stand listening to that kind of crap beyond 5 minutes.

So you think I am fair, there is a 10 minute segment here in OKC where an ultra-libtard gets on the radio and idiots up the airwaves: I can't stand listening to him, either (thought i have no listened to the radio in ages)/

Originally posted by Mairuzu
I wish I could afford that much weaponry right out of college while not being able to find a job and having a place of my own.

Me too x1000. I asked my wife yesterday where he got that money. She said student loans and/or parents. Probably.

Originally posted by Oliver North
to be fair, that is a learning style more than it is intelligence

Indeed, depending on his learning style. That, or he simply is very smart and just remember things by association and immediate-memorization.

Originally posted by dadudemon
She sounds very annoying. I would not be able stand listening to that kind of crap beyond 5 minutes.

ha, no for sure. If we lived in America or were around these ideas more often, I'm sure it would have been less entertaining.

I've been playing a lot of GTA4 lately, and one of the radio stations they have in the game is a mockery of right wing talk radio (they also have an equally hilarious mockery of left wing radio too). There were times that the parody station and the real station we were listening to would have been indistinguishable. Its like, moved beyond any form of mockery, there is no position so outrageous that they wont go there...

For all the crazy stuff she said, the one that really got me was how she seemed legitimately confused that Obama and Romney would cancel their campaign/ads/etc in the wake of the shooting. Like, ok, maybe it is symbolic, maybe it is political, but seriously, it is also the right thing to do to show even the smallest amount of decency and respect for the victims. She repeated over and over how she just literally didn't understand it, and said things like "I bet Obama visits Colorado, you just watch, he's going there", as if that was something the ****ing president shouldn't do.

Originally posted by dadudemon
So you think I am fair, there is a 10 minute segment here in OKC where an ultra-libtard gets on the radio and idiots up the airwaves: I can't stand listening to him, either (thought i have no listened to the radio in ages)/

Oh, i hear you, massive partisan stuff like that is never any good. Even stuff I generally like, TYT for instance, annoys me at times when they sort of lose that "critical analysis" thing and just do partisan rants. It also tends to be where they make the most factual errors...

Originally posted by dadudemon
Indeed, depending on his learning style. That, or he simply is very smart and just remember things by association and immediate-memorization.

I'm actually really similar, I do bring some paper to jot things down on, but they tend to be more questions I want clarification for, not "notes". It makes studying a bit tougher, especially for subjects like stats where having a comprehensive understanding of concepts and theories isn't really enough. I don't think it is an intelligence thing though, it is more just, in my case at least, I need to interact with information as it comes in for it to make any sense. If I'm spending my time writing it down, I don't interact with it and it loses relevance.

Originally posted by dadudemon

Me too x1000. I asked my wife yesterday where he got that money. She said student loans and/or parents. Probably.

Parents? Hmm I wonder if that would hit the news already.

I'd figure student loans would have went toward college but its possible he would have had enough... maybe unemployment. No idea.

They said he was getting monthly checks from an educational grant than he was receiving.

it's impossible to know the value of the grant without knowing exactly which one he received, but the NIH is known to have a lot of money to invest in neuroscience.

Originally posted by Mairuzu
Parents? Hmm I wonder if that would hit the news already.

I'd figure student loans would have went toward college but its possible he would have had enough... maybe unemployment. No idea.

I can't imagine a grad student qualifying for unemployment.

Tough times

Seems like the news mentioned $2K checks at a time, but I'd have to check and the Google search bar is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay up in the right-hand corner of the browser.

One would have to care enough