Originally posted by abhilegend
I was talking about "its not special because freaking LOBO broke a part of the mask". I mean I know that you lowball the shit out of DC streets, but seriously?
Liefeld's Lobo sucks. He has no strength feats and got half his body incinerated by a bomb designed to take out Elephants. There is nothing that suggests he is Superman level right now, but I'm sure once a competent writer gets their hands on him that will change.
Anyway this whole Nth metal thing is almost laughable. People imposing their pre retcon notions of the metals attributes onto the current iteration of the metal. Lobo's broken it. Midnighter was beating the crap out of Grant (who also had a Nth metal suit), and was cracking the thing. Deathstroke has been shot and stabbed repeatedly since the reboot and several times those attacks have penetrated the armor.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
So you made a, in your mind, one sided thread to get mad about the results?
This is just a testament to the unrelenting attitude some of these posters have when it comes to picking one character over another. instead of conceding in light of a new development they hold their stance against all logic. Instead of focusing on supporting that stance they deflect with irrelevant comments like these used to antagonize a poster with the opposite stance.
Originally posted by srankmissingninbreaking nth metal is a strengh feat. Cap sure as hell can't. And it was never stated that the bombs were designed for elephants. Slade just said one could take out an elephant. You have a nasty habit of stating what you infer as fact. you also conveniently left out the fact that the bombs had no real effect on him. You have a tendency to leave things out as well.
Liefeld's Lobo sucks. He has no strength feats and got half his body incinerated by a bomb designed to take out Elephants. There is nothing that suggests he is Superman level right now, but I'm sure once a competent writer gets their hands on him that will change.Anyway this whole Nth metal thing is almost laughable. People imposing their pre retcon notions of the metals attributes onto the current iteration of the metal. Lobo's broken it. Midnighter was beating the crap out of Grant (who also had a Nth metal suit), and was cracking the thing. Deathstroke has been shot and stabbed repeatedly since the reboot and several times those attacks have penetrated the armor.
It isn't even clear if slade had the nth metal the entire series. I'm pretty sure it well be revealed that he acquired it after beating a version of the legacy suits. it was stated that the most powerful ones suit was nth metal, and there
was no mention of slades suit being so until after that issue.
Originally posted by namorsubby
The actual results don't seem to be a problem, but my apparent reason and intent being the thread(which you stated for me) deserves a comment?This is just a testament to the unrelenting attitude some of these posters have when it comes to picking one character over another. instead of conceding in light of a new development they hold their stance against all logic. Instead of focusing on supporting that stance they deflect with irrelevant comments like these used to antagonize a poster with the opposite stance.
IE Bait thread.
Originally posted by namorsubby
breaking nth metal is a strengh feat. Cap sure as hell can't.It isn't even clear if slade had the nth metal the entire series. I'm pretty sure it well be revealed that he acquired it after beating a version of the legacy suits. it was stated that the most powerful ones suit was nth metal, and there was no benton of slades siut being so until after that issue.
Based on what exactly? Midnighter did. Even a point blank shot from a revolver got through the thing. You are hyping the suit WAY above it's documented on panel durability.
Peabody ran a test on Ravager mask and confirmed it was the mask Grant was wearing when Midnighter supposedly killed him, because the knife and mask were made of Nth metal, and that incident was years before the series. Logic would dictate that Slade's suit has been Nth metal the entire time... or he had his witless sidekick decked out in better gear than he had for him self.
Originally posted by namorsubby
These guys obviously haven't read up on DcnU Slade. Doesn't stop them from posting an opinion though. Then again, ignorance never did stop them.Slades entire suit is nth metal. What will Cap do to by pass that?
These posters have yet to state how they can by pass the Nth Metal. Cap is no Lobo.
Cap is pretty fast, has enhanced senses, and absurd accuracy when it comes to the shield. He's also incredibly strong in his own right.
So, I'm really not seeing how Slade's armor is beyond Cap's means to damage, unless you're arguing that it's not whether or not Cap can do it but whether or not he'll get the chance to do it.
Originally posted by Golgo13
Easier said than done. Slade is pretty quick and has uber senses. Caught Tigorr when he was trying to ambush him by sensing the air pressure. Plus, Lobo didn't destroy it without a little effort, who apparently has super strength. Actual super strength.
Captain America has done the same thing against Black Panther... and BP actually has speed feats.
Captain America runs a train on Slade, and DCnU Deathstroke doesn't have the speed, strength, skill or healing factor feats to suggest otherwise, and his armor has been repeatedly bypassed by far less that Captain America.
Simple.
Slade without the Nth Metal armor would be a competitive fight against Captain America. With it Slade wins all day every day. I'd say Cap would or could take a majority without the armor in H2H combat, but with it, he has no real way of keeping a guy that is as fast and deadly as he is down while possessing that nice armor.
Originally posted by Stoic
Slade without the Nth Metal armor would be a competitive fight against Captain America. With it Slade wins all day every day. I'd say Cap would or could take a majority without the armor in H2H combat, but with it, he has no real way of keeping a guy that is as fast and deadly as he is down while possessing that nice armor.
People need to stop fixating on the Nth Metal and arbitrarily attributing the armor with greater durability then it has shown on panel. Gun shots of have penetrated it. Midnighter's peak - class 2 strength was enough to bash a person wearing it. Why would this armor give Slade any sort of advantage over Cap? Too date Slade's armor is only marginally more impressive than Caps own.
Originally posted by Stoic
Slade without the Nth Metal armor would be a competitive fight against Captain America. With it Slade wins all day every day. I'd say Cap would or could take a majority without the armor in H2H combat, but with it, he has no real way of keeping a guy that is as fast and deadly as he is down while possessing that nice armor.
👆 Slade purposely blew himself up and took out a building, yet easily survived because of the armor. Hell, even Lobo stated the armor is good for fighting foes who are stronger. Once Hawkman gets explored more, we will really see how much this Nth metal can do in the DCnU.
Originally posted by Golgo13
👆 Slade purposely blew himself up and took out a building, yet easily survived because of the armor. Hell, even Lobo stated the armor is good for fighting foes who are stronger. Once Hawkman gets explored more, we will really see how much this Nth metal can do in the DCnU.
You know who else survived that explosion? The meth head's pre-teen son in the next room and he was completely unharmed also. 😱
Hawkman's weapons / armor are pure Nth metal. Slade's is a composite.