Originally posted by Damborgson
the closest to that would have been thor #385 I think. And it scared hulk so much he took a hostage.....
No, I'm talking about the scene where Hulk busted Thor face with his own hammer before taking on Wrecker and the crew. Thor did well placed hammer shots to the face multiple of times against Hulk, Hulk grabs his hand and then beats him to sleep.
Originally posted by carver9Now you are accusing people of reporting you? 😆 You lowball until somebody gets tired of it and thy report you not my problem but yours. You dont debate you rant
It's either you or Psycho that is reporting me every time I debate against them. This means, "you can't handle me"...so to avoid this and make things right, I have short debates against you until you are ready for this.
Originally posted by Nihilist
Cap and Iron Man have one shotted Hulk with a punch, to say Thor couldn't with with a total cheapshot is blatant Hullk wanking
If you are then that's some sad attempt at lowballing I have to say.
Thor has cheapshotted Hulk several times and never once has he dropped him in that fashion, not even close. It's not wanking when what i'm saying has all happened on-panel.
Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Yeah, and I'm still waiting for him to show some scans of Hulk beating PC Superman. 2 weeks ago he was supposedly going to be "right back" with scans.
No not that those scans don't exist, I was talking about him getting checked by digI
Originally posted by Digi
Not at all."A Green Lantern is a character that can do basically anything when he puts his mind to it. He wields the most powerful weapon in the universe and draws from a limitless source. GL have been shown as team-wreckers when let loose, have destroyed planets, etc."
"Superman is a character that can do basically anything when he puts his mind to it. He can and has overcome team-wrecker characters on numerous occasions by letting loose with his powers and strength."
"Thor is a character that can do basically anything when he puts his mind to it. He can absorb the physical and energy attacks against them and transfer them back to his opponent. He has taken on team-wreckers and Trans. beings and won."
"Flash is a character that can do basically anything when he puts his mind to it. He has stolen the speed, inertia, and ability to move from characters that can exceed lightspeed, can move fast enough to never be touched by any character not using the speed force, and can channel that speed into attacks that should invert reality. He can take down any number of heroes when let loose."
I could go on.
These guys all have their moment in the sun. They all take on numerous heralds at some point simultaneously and come out of it looking great. They almost all have planet-buster potential, nano or pico-second reaction times, FTL flight speeds, etc.
You frequently face strong reactions to your backing of Hulk. But it has nothing to do with Hulk himself, but the fact that these guys and others have similar feats pock-marked throughout comics for decades, and that you seem to focus only on the Hulk's feats. Each one of these guys has had team-buster moments, sometimes numerous ones. Most have planet-buster feats, or something that's the equivalent of it. Each one has either stalemated or beaten someone considered to be Trans.
I agree Surfer is potentially the most powerful single character among those mentioned. That's it. Allow for "best feats" for all, and Hulk never touches Superman or Flash, GL hurls him into the sun (or teleports him there, or shrinks him to the size of a thimble, or absorb his radiation, or...), and I'll grant you a Thor win, because Thor usually fights like an idiot and some of his more exotic powers aren't as useful against Hulk as they are against other characters. And if Surfer allows Superman into melee range, faces a GL who raises the bar Alan Scott-style, or gets tangled in Flash's kinetic stealing, he could lose to these guys as well. Hulk's relative newness at this level (he didn't have the feats to even sniff these guys until the last 5-6 years) also means he has less to draw from.
So could Hulk take on the JLA? Absolutely - writers love playing around with power levels for individual arcs, and teams have a tendency to dumb down their component parts, as opposed to solo books. But if he fought a good, KMC-style JLA, he'd have 3-4 characters running/flying circles around him, would be shrunk, immobile from lack of kinetic energy, gassed, assaulted by a planet-level telepath, would have heat-vision holes in his brain from 2-3 sources, and would soon find himself fighting in space or inside a sun. Shields that can withstand black holes would be shielding the team from any radiation, or GL could matter manip. it to something else. And none that would be so dumb as to brawl with him, except maybe Superman who could handle that encounter for quite a while, and possibly win it outright.
It's not that Hulk isn't powerful. He is, and he's capable of beating any of these guys if they don't fight well or if the encounter happens to go his way. But it's that a writer would need to willfully ignore powers to have him take on this particular team in its entirety. If everyone's willing to just test themselves against "SMASH" then they lose, not unlike, say, Despero (who also had high-level telepathy, granted).
I don't expect to convince you, but can you at least admit that it's not as clear-cut as you say?
Originally posted by The SorrowWhy wouldnt they be? because they paint Hulk in a bad light. Its funny because you Hulk fanboys are so extreme with your views and you ask if im serious.
If this is some personal grudge between you and Carv then cool but not sure if you're serious with your posts?
If you are then that's some sad attempt at lowballing I have to say.Its not a lowball as im not twisting context or lying, they both knokced out Savage Hulk with a punch..so saying Thor couldnt d it under the right circumstance are pure bias.
Thor has cheapshotted Hulk several times and never once has he dropped him in that fashion, not even close. It's not wanking when what i'm saying has all happened on-panel.Thor has NEVER cheapshotted in that manner ie on the same team both ready to fight the same opponent.
Originally posted by Nihilist
Why wouldnt they be? because they paint Hulk in a bad light. Its funny because you Hulk fanboys are so extreme with your views and you ask if im serious.Its not a lowball as im not twisting context or lying, they both knokced out Savage Hulk with a punch..so saying Thor couldnt d it under the right circumstance are pure bias.
Thor has NEVER cheapshotted in that manner ie on the same team both ready to fight the same opponent.
First of all if you're going to lowball to that extreme then at least get your facts right before posting, Iron Man has never one-shotted Hulk and the Cap example was retold by the worlds most reliable source in Spiderman. Secondly this has zero relevance to the topic I initially posted about, not even the same incarnation smh.
Originally posted by The SorrowConsidering i only deal in facts with regard to Thanos your talking total shit.
It's ironic claiming someone else has extreme views considering how notoriously devoted to Thanos you are.
First of all if you're going to lowball to that extreme then at least get your facts right before posting, Iron Man has never one-shottedHe punched him with powering his punch with all his energy
Hulk and the Cap example was retold by the worlds most reliable source in SpidermanSo youre lowballing saying Spiderman lied lol, it was shown on panel.
Secondly this has zero relevance to the topic I initially posted about, not even the same incarnation smh.You tried to use Hulk cheapshotting Thor with his own hammer as so kind of marker for Thors durability