Thunder God WW vs OWAW Superman

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Thunder God WW vs OWAW Superman

Pre-reboot Wonder Woman is given the hammer of Thor and has Thor's power on TOP of hers (no Thor-on-top-of-WW jokes plz :-p). Strength, dura, etc stacks. She learns all of Thor's knowledge and experience with Mjolnir instantly.

Can she beat a PO'd sundiiped OWAW Superman?

Round 1) No gear for WW other than Mjolnir (she's in Thor's standard armor)

Round 2) She gets her lasso in addition to Thor's standard stuff.

Round 3) She gets her armor, lasso, sword and gauntlet of atlas in addition to Thor's standard stuff.

Bonus Round: if she stomps Supes in any round above, Supes brings the fight to the surface of the sun.

No BFR.

Do you know how powerful sun dipped Kal was?

Superman in round 1 and 2, wonder thor in 3.

Don't forget that WW can pull off exotics here. She has all of Thor's abilities and knowledge/experience. Some nifty combis like using Mjolnir to spin the lasso around Supes while he's distracted then combo into a godblast. Or lasso into a soul drain. It might even be possible to drain the solar energy from Supes, too. Or maybe wait til he HVs then reflect the sundipped HV back at him 10 fold...

Was thinking that WW's combat strength, skill, speed and plot-ty weapons on top of Thor's power, damage soak, exotics and striking power would make this pretty interesting. IIRC, OWAW Supes wasn't given a speed boost via the Sundip. WW fighting defensively til she can pull something exotic or tricky might work here.

:-D

Can def see her take wins here.

It's not all always about who is more powerful after all.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Don't forget that WW can pull off exotics here. She has all of Thor's abilities and knowledge/experience. Some nifty combis like using Mjolnir to spin the lasso around Supes while he's distracted then combo into a godblast. Or lasso into a soul drain. It might even be possible to drain the solar energy from Supes, too. Or maybe wait til he HVs then reflect the sundipped HV back at him 10 fold...

Was thinking that WW's combat strength, skill, speed and plot-ty weapons on top of Thor's power, damage soak, exotics and striking power would make this pretty interesting. IIRC, OWAW Supes wasn't given a speed boost via the Sundip. WW fighting defensively til she can pull something exotic or tricky might work here.

:-D

Can def see her take wins here.

It's not all always about who is more powerful after all.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman in round 1 and 2, wonder thor in 3.

Superman in all out *non-sundipped* OWAW mode outperformed entire JLA including an Ion amped kyle rayner and an army of 10000 daxamites. Imagine his sundipped power level.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman in all out *non-sundipped* OWAW mode outperformed entire JLA including an Ion amped kyle rayner and an army of 10000 daxamites. Imagine his sundipped power level.

Never said he wasn't more powerful.

You think he'd be able to snap WW's lasso? :-p

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Never said he wasn't more powerful.

You think he'd be able to snap WW's lasso? :-p


No, but he can wrestle it free from her hand before she can use it. Not to mention that intangible beings have escaped the lasso.

At the end of the day Speed gap between Supes and WW is supposed to be less than the speed gap between Thor and Supes.

Add to the fact she just gained instant teleportation and a device that dramatically increases her flight speed.

I mean sundipped Superman is no cake walk but she is carrying one of the most power Plot Weapons in comics with her.

That has to give her a fighting chance if she fights extremely smart with it since Supes speed shouldn't completely over whelm her right?

Originally posted by Newjak
At the end of the day Speed gap between Supes and WW is supposed to be less than the speed gap between Thor and Supes.

Add to the fact she just gained instant teleportation and a device that dramatically increases her flight speed.

I mean sundipped Superman is no cake walk but she is carrying one of the most power Plot Weapons in comics with her.

That has to give her a fighting chance if she fights extremely smart with it since Supes speed shouldn't completely over whelm her right?

Didn't WW once said she was faster than Supes? I seem to recall reading that somewhere...?

If she did I would call her a liar 😛

As she now has her flight speed + Thor's, shouldn't she be able to play keep away until she drains him of a large amount of energy, or until she can unleash things like the GB.

I think this is a fight between sheer power vs vast options/plot weapons. I really feel that WW can take 2 and 3...

Re: Thunder God WW vs OWAW Superman

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Pre-reboot Wonder Woman is given the hammer of Thor and has Thor's power on TOP of hers (no Thor-on-top-of-WW jokes plz :-p). Strength, dura, etc stacks. She learns all of Thor's knowledge and experience with Mjolnir instantly.

Can she beat a PO'd sundiiped OWAW Superman?

Round 1) No gear for WW other than Mjolnir (she's in Thor's standard armor)

Round 2) She gets her lasso in addition to Thor's standard stuff.

Round 3) She gets her armor, lasso, sword and gauntlet of atlas in addition to Thor's standard stuff.

Bonus Round: if she stomps Supes in any round above, Supes brings the fight to the surface of the sun.

No BFR.

Just know that this version of Superman is capable of one shotting her.
The only way she stands a chance is if he doesn't get to touch her.

I see a few scenarios.
1. The sundipped increases Supes speed the same factor as it increases his strength (any evidence here?). If so, then he stomps in all three matches.

2. The sundip doesn't increase Supes speed, but Diana's speed is increased because of the stacking of Thor's powers. Then she can win at least a few with the lasso if she's lucky not to let him hit her. Abilegend, I seen WW capture intangible opponents with the lasso, when did she fail to capture an intangible opponent?

Originally posted by Newjak
At the end of the day Speed gap between Supes and WW is supposed to be less than the speed gap between Thor and Supes.

Add to the fact she just gained instant teleportation and a device that dramatically increases her flight speed.

I mean sundipped Superman is no cake walk but she is carrying one of the most power Plot Weapons in comics with her.

That has to give her a fighting chance if she fights extremely smart with it since Supes speed shouldn't completely over whelm her right?


He is a lot faster than her without any amp. How far the gap would be after the sundip? Superman AFTER just a sun-amp when he beat down darkseid, went so fast that he opened a boom tube like effect in space-time and went to source wall at the end of the universe. Now consider that a sun amp is several time smaller amp than a sun dip and with a few seconds of sun amp he beat Cythonna, a kryptonian skyfather level goddess who was initially several times stronger than him.

Originally posted by h1a8
Just know that this version of Superman is capable of one shotting her.
The only way she stands a chance is if he doesn't get to touch her.

I see a few scenarios.
1. The sundipped increases Supes speed the same factor as it increases his strength (any evidence here?). If so, then he stomps in all three matches.

2. The sundip doesn't increase Supes speed, but Diana's speed is increased because of the stacking of Thor's powers. Then she can win at least a few with the lasso if she's lucky not to let him hit her. Abilegend, I seen WW capture intangible opponents with the lasso, when did she fail to capture an intangible opponent?


A white martian escaped lasso in Terror incognita.

Wonder Woman reflexes is faster than Supermans.

Given these stops, minus Sundip, Wonder Woman STOMPS.

Nice insight. Who would've though a WW amped by Thor's powers would have stomped a normal Superman?

😉

Originally posted by carver9
Wonder Woman reflexes is faster than Supermans.

Given these stops, minus Sundip, Wonder Woman STOMPS.


She is not even close in reflexes to him. He is one of the five fastest people on earth according to wally and the rest are Jay, Bart, Max mercury and Jesse quick and he is faster than all the other four. Of course wonder thor would beat normal superman.

Diana with Mjolnir + advanced gear would curb any high herald normally.

Originally posted by abhilegend
She is not even close in reflexes to him. He is one of the five fastest people on earth according to wally and the rest are Jay, Bart, Max mercury and Jesse quick and he is faster than all the other four. Of course wonder thor would beat normal superman.

Going by fts, IMO, Superman doesn't have the fts Wonder Woman have reflex wise. Hitting Flashes, hell, she did that while blind...blocking heat vision like its candy, doing it at super speed, etc, etc,...Wonder Woman is clearly faster and this doesn't include a statement from both her and Batman to aid me in this argument. Now pure speed, I'm giving that to Superman.