Australian Billionaire Wants to Clone Dinosaur

Started by Omega Vision3 pages

Originally posted by Astner

we're not able to create artificial wombs for one.

Wouldn't be a problem for a dinosaur.

But for the most part I think this kind of science is a tad decadent.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Just like Jurassic Park had?

So did . . . . . . . . . Jurassic Park.

Can it? The cloning I mean. (and not in a philosophical sense where "we can do anything"😉

We'd need very specific dinosaur DNA and a way to make sure the cell cluster and fetus are able to grow. Even at that cloning has a significant failure rate.

dunno if you're joking or not but i'll humour you assume you are.

three words. It's A Movie.

it was meant to be a thriller that came with security breaches, hungry dino's and human's in dispair in order for it to be a good scary movie. but a couple of cloned dino's wouldn't stand a chance against near militry security personnel and state of the art, high tech security and weaponry matching high max prisons.

i don't see security as a concern. you'd, at most, probably need the same security measures you'd need at a city zoo or aquarium.

but i see jurrasic park did to you and the naysayers what Jaws did to beach goers in the 70's 80's.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Has he actually watched Jurassic Park? Things didn't exactly turn out alright for the rich billionaire in it as far as I remember.

it was a movie !

that's like saying "Has he actually watched Jaws? Things didn't exactly turn out alright for the couple of swimmers in it as far as I remember."

that imply's the people should go swimming because of a movie.

correction "shouldn't go swimming because of a movie."

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
it was a movie !

Which is exactly what I say to people who think cloning a healthy dinosaur is feasible in the foreseeable future.

its just such a stupid idea, how much money could a theme park bring in? Then how would he feed the animals, who would feed them? Bringing animals that were dead ages ago could have an effect on our environment; not only to us but to them. The air they breathed isnt the same air we are breathing today? Their just going to run a-muck!!!

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Which is exactly what I say to people who think cloning a healthy dinosaur is feasible in the foreseeable future.

just like people as recent as in the 19th century would've had you commited if you went on about airplanes and space shuttles being an absolute possibility in the forseeable future??

Originally posted by rudester
its just such a stupid idea, how much money could a theme park bring in? Then how would he feed the animals, who would feed them? Bringing animals that were dead ages ago could have an effect on our environment; not only to us but to them. The air they breathed isnt the same air we are breathing today? Their just going to run a-muck!!!

ah shutup.

Tell you what Fist, when the park opens you go check it out and let us know how it all turns out.

Originally posted by Ascendancy
Yep, cause Australia doesn't already enough deadly creatures roaming around.

This.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
just like people as recent as in the 19th century would've had you commited if you went on about airplanes and space shuttles being an absolute possibility in the forseeable future??

what does technology have to do with ancient reptiles? They had their shot, and died, now we are at the top of the food chain. (F*king with the balance will only leave us at the bottom of the food chain) If you think a man made structure can hold down dinosaurs then ur a scientologist and a weirdo.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
just like people as recent as in the 19th century would've had you commited if you went on about airplanes and space shuttles being an absolute possibility in the forseeable future??

First off, I don't think people of the 19th century were nearly as skeptical to the prospect of powered flight or space travel as you might believe.

Second, this doesn't make the case for cloning dinosaurs being feasible, this just attempts to pull the rug under my argument, and fails too.

You do see how some variation of your maneuver here could be used to attempt justifying literally ANY belief about what's possible, don't you?

It has nothing to do with people being skeptical that it can be done, im sure it can but just because you have the power and means to be able to do things, does not give you the right to play GOD! He's being selfish on his quest for fame. If he wanted to he could help out the aboriginals who are suffering from degradation, quality of life and segregation.

TBH I really don't have any ethical problems with it. However, I am doubtful that it can be done. Furthermore, even if it can be done, we don't know how they will act and what they can do. What is needed to cage dinosaurs is basically unknown.

Still, if the park is created I'll be first in line to get in.

How is it unknown? They're just animals, and by examining their bones we can tell exactly how big and how strong they'll be.

What exactly do people think might end up happening if we somehow manage.to.bring dinosaurs.back to life?

Plenty of stuff. We don;t know how they acted, how they hunted, what they can do, etc...

Basically, we have no clue what they did and how they acted.

Actually, we have a pretty good idea of how most of them acted and hunted. When an animal has a certain biology, there's only so many ways it can behave. Similarly, if an animal has certain size bones, it can only be so strong, or durable. If it's skull is only so big than it's brain can only be so large, so it can only be so smart, etc.

There isn't really a whole lot you can't figure out about an animal just by examining it. You don't need to see a living breathing velocoraptor to know that if you lock it in a steel cage it can't get out, and if you shoot it with a gun it won't die.

I'm thinking I should hit up an exotic bet for how many people will be eaten before the place gets shut down.

Not really. To this day there are still debates about whether T-rex was a hunter or a scavenger. We can only guess on an animals behavior based on their skeletal structure, however morphology only goes so far. Consider a vulture and eagle, both have very similar skeletal structure, yet have very different hunting patterns.

However, I'm not saying we can't keep them contained as we obviously can. By "what is needed to cage" I meant rather what they would need in their environment to keep them healthy.

Originally posted by Tzeentch._
Actually, we have a pretty good idea of how most of them acted and hunted. When an animal has a certain biology, there's only so many ways it can behave. Similarly, if an animal has certain size bones, it can only be so strong, or durable. If it's skull is only so big than it's brain can only be so large, so it can only be so smart, etc.

There isn't really a whole lot you can't figure out about an animal just by examining it. You don't need to see a living breathing velocoraptor to know that if you lock it in a steel cage it can't get out, and if you shoot it with a gun it won't die.


Brain size isn't always an indicator of intelligence.

Look at Sperm Whales.

Originally posted by ares834
Not really. To this day there are still debates about whether T-rex was a hunter or a scavenger. We can only guess on an animals behavior based on their skeletal structure, however morphology only goes so far. Consider a vulture and eagle, both have very similar skeletal structure, yet have very different hunting patterns.

However, I'm not saying we can't keep them contained as we obviously can. By "what is needed to cage" I meant rather what they would need in their environment to keep them healthy.


The difference between scavenger and hunter in birds like eagles and vultures is easy--sharp talons means hunter, blunt talons means scavenger.

Of course bald eagles scavenge as much as they hunt.