The idea of Hulk soloing these teams without massive helpings of PIS and plot device is a level of sick I don't even want to imagine. Superman couldn't solo some of these teams. Silver Surfer couldn't. Thor couldn't. And those three guys have versatility in addition to sheer power to help them combat groups better than Hulk could.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
No, he wouldn't.PIS on, sure.
CIS on Diana still uses the lasso and superior speed and tactics, to say nothing of attacking tendons. CIS on Power Girl speedblitzes. CIS on Lanterns unleash insane energy projection and constructs. CIS on Superman punches shit until it falls over.
That will not work against this Hulk. All of this was tried an failed. I never said they couldn't hit him...the problem is dropping him and it ain't happening. Not before he takes them out.
The GLs get their shields ripped through.
Originally posted by carver9
That will not work against this Hulk. All of this was tried an failed. I never said they couldn't hit him...the problem is dropping him and it ain't happening. Not before he takes them out.The GLs get their shields ripped through.
What won't work against Hulk?
Hulk didn't face teams with the combined level of power, teamwork, skill, and overall formidability as some of the teams mentioned here. Get real.
Debatable, considering what the shields have prevented. Also, they can spam the shit out of Hulk from a distance, which is very much in character for them, especially John.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
What won't work against Hulk?Hulk didn't face teams with the combined level of power, teamwork, skill, and overall formidability as some of the teams mentioned here. Get real.
Debatable, considering what the shields have prevented. Also, they can spam the shit out of Hulk from a distance, which is very much in character for them, especially John.
He didn't have to face entire teams to prove what he can withstand what they can dish out. I don't see any of them dishing out the power Sentry was displaying during his battle against the Hulk...ya know, the power that was threatening to lay waste to the planet.
I don't see their combined powers being on the level of Zom either...ya know, the same Zom that was stated as being capable of laying waste to the planet in his fight against Hulk.
The teams are powerful but they are not dropping WWH imo.
Originally posted by carver9
That will not work against this Hulk. All of this was tried an failed. I never said they couldn't hit him...the problem is dropping him and it ain't happening. Not before he takes them out.The GLs get their shields ripped through.
All?
So the foes WWH faced included a lasso that compelled you to obey its every command, did it?
And yes, like Jake mentioned, Stewart snipes.
I notice you still haven't addressed Raven, though.
Originally posted by carver9
He didn't have to face entire teams to prove what he can withstand what they can dish out. I don't see any of them dishing out the power Sentry was displaying during his battle against the Hulk...ya know, the power that was threatening to lay waste to the planet.I don't see their combined powers being on the level of Zom either...ya know, the same Zom that was stated as being capable of laying waste to the planet in his fight against Hulk.
The teams are powerful but they are not dropping WWH imo.
That there is your problem, right there. Can you see it?
You only look at power, but more specifically, you only look at power as measured in collateral damage. You haven't read a comic or seen a scan where Team 5 lay waste to an entire city (which. btw, neither did Sentry or ZomStrange) and therefore, they are incapable of it.
But not all fights are about power.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
All?So the foes WWH faced included a lasso that compelled you to obey its every command, did it?
And yes, like Jake mentioned, Stewart snipes.
I notice you still haven't addressed Raven, though.
Not the lasso...no but Diana tends to start her matches off brawling before resorting to the lasso which would more than likely be her downfall.
I admit, if Raven fought with the potential she wields, yes, she could solo WWH...that's why I said, CIS because she rarely if ever use this potential.
Originally posted by carver9
He didn't have to face entire teams to prove what he can withstand what they can dish out. I don't see any of them dishing out the power Sentry was displaying during his battle against the Hulk...ya know, the power that was threatening to lay waste to the planet.I don't see their combined powers being on the level of Zom either...ya know, the same Zom that was stated as being capable of laying waste to the planet in his fight against Hulk.
The teams are powerful but they are not dropping WWH imo.
You act like some of these people aren't capable of planetary scale destruction, which is freaking ridiculous.
Superman alone has shaken planets to their very core with the impacts of his fists. Green Lanterns are capable of destroying planets as well as surviving planets being destroyed.
The only way you don't see Hulk losing to these teams is if you think Sentry was operating FAR FAR FAR above the typical high herald higher end showing and that the members of the teams mentioned can't replicate that sort of damage physically or through energy projection on their own (to say nothing of them working together).
Christ. The Zom shit is more or less the same; you're deluded if you don't think the likes of the League combined can deal as much damage or more than Zom Strange can.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That there is your problem, right there. Can you see it?You only look at power, but more specifically, you only look at power as measured in collateral damage. You haven't read a comic or seen a scan where Team 5 lay waste to an entire city (which. btw, neither did Sentry or ZomStrange) and therefore, they are incapable of it.
But not all fights are about power.
Not just Collateral damage. Sentry blast has been stated as being hotter than the sun...Sentry unleashed all of this power in the form of a tornado. While unleashing this power, not only was Hulk being hit by this, Sentry was still blasting him and using physical might as well.
Zom Strange had enough power to punch holes clean through WWH. Compare that to Hulk precious fights against top tiers, that alone should tell you how powerful Zom punches were.
And WWH started every match off with a fight-ending punch? Nah. He brawled as well, witness how Thing was still hanging in there.
You're approaching every fight as if Hulk goes and punches with all his force from the very start. Which he never did. CIS on, he wasn't there to fight them, and was holding back. Drop the JLA for example in place of the X-men, and say they were trying to protect...Aquaman, as he is part of the DC's version of the Illuminati.
CIS on, Hulk ain't storming out giving it his all when he arrives. He'll brawl, they'll brawl, and at some point WW will use her lasso.
Originally posted by carver9Zom Strange had enough power to punch holes clean through WWH. Compare that to Hulk precious fights against top tiers, that alone should tell you how powerful Zom punches were.
That they dealt as much damage as a very large adamantium bullet?
Those were ripping holes through him as well.
Originally posted by carver9
@Jake...I never said none of these people couldn't destroy a planet given time...what I said is, I just don't think any of them possess the strength necessary to drop Hulk before falling themselves.
Looking at the stips, I take my vote back since majority of them can win via BFR. I'm done here.
NOW you get my point!!!
Originally posted by carver9
Not just Collateral damage. Sentry blast has been stated as being hotter than the sun...Sentry unleashed all of this power in the form of a tornado. While unleashing this power, not only was Hulk being hit by this, Sentry was still blasting him and using physical might as well.Zom Strange had enough power to punch holes clean through WWH. Compare that to Hulk precious fights against top tiers, that alone should tell you how powerful Zom punches were.
Superman's heat vision > the temperature of the sun. And at higher levels, it's exponentially greater. They can't even measure it. Hal's "afterburner" blast he used on Cyborg Superman was described as being hotter the sun as well.
Originally posted by carver9
He didn't have to face entire teams to prove what he can withstand what they can dish out. I don't see any of them dishing out the power Sentry was displaying during his battle against the Hulk...ya know, the power that was threatening to lay waste to the planet.I don't see their combined powers being on the level of Zom either...ya know, the same Zom that was stated as being capable of laying waste to the planet in his fight against Hulk.
The teams are powerful but they are not dropping WWH imo.
Then you're a troll.