Originally posted by Golgo13
Feats?
All this is 616 versions too.
This battle could very well go like the showdown with 4280-Eson went .
In order to beat Arishem , Franklin might have to end up killing himself , or he'll get seriously incapacitated(at the very least) in the process .
Edit : Either that or a stalemate . Its definitely not going to be a stomp in either party's favor .
Originally posted by zopzop
Franklin has killed 616 Celestials? When did this happen?
Maybe you should consider what I wrote instead of asking questions I never raised.
Frankly, Arishem has never taken on anyone on Franklin's level. Skyfather is the highest he's gone, which is irrelevant when you're taking about a elite omega mutant. And all the other times arishem has operated has been in concert with multiple other celestials.
Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
Maybe you should consider what I wrote instead of asking questions I never raised.
616 Arishem tanked the combined attack of multiple 616 Skyfathers without so much as flinching. Just one of those 616 Skyfather's gave 616 Galactus a hard time. 616 Arishem was called the mightiest the Celestials.
Originally posted by zopzop
You said he killed Celestials. I asked when has he killed 616 Celestials. He didn't right? So what's the point in bringing it up. Alt reality characters != their 616 counterparts.616 Arishem tanked the combined attack of multiple 616 Skyfathers without so much as flinching. Just one of those 616 Skyfather's gave 616 Galactus a hard time. 616 Arishem was called the mightiest the Celestials.
He killed beings for which Galactus was sufficiently leery enough to consume 4 planets. An unheard of feat considering all the cosmic beings Galactus has fought that are far and away more impressive than anything Arishem has encoutnered.
The same Galactus that did not give a single damn about Odin (never so much as attacked Odin). He prepped with FOUR PLANETS to combat the Celestials. None of the 616 Celestials have indivdually ever faced someone on Galactus' level. So what is your point in bringing up skyfathers, one of whom is in this very thread and has unanimously been dismissed as immaterial when it comes to someone of the power of Franklin Richards
Originally posted by zopzop
You said he killed Celestials. I asked when has he killed 616 Celestials. He didn't right? So what's the point in bringing it up. Alt reality characters != their 616 counterparts.616 Arishem tanked the combined attack of multiple 616 Skyfathers without so much as flinching. Just one of those 616 Skyfather's gave 616 Galactus a hard time. 616 Arishem was called the mightiest the Celestials.
I'd put Franklin above any skyfather
Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
He killed beings for which Galactus was sufficiently leery enough to consume 4 planets. An unheard of feat considering all the cosmic beings Galactus has fought that are far and away more impressive than anything Arishem has encoutnered.
The same Galactus that did not give a single damn about Odin (never so much as attacked Odin). He prepped with FOUR PLANETS to combat the Celestials. None of the 616 Celestials have indivdually ever faced someone on Galactus' level. So what is your point in bringing up skyfathers, one of whom is in this very thread and has unanimously been dismissed as immaterial when it comes to someone of the power of Franklin Richards
Originally posted by zopzopMeaningless since those beings weren't even 616 characters. Get back to me when he replicates this feat vs 616 Celestials.
It's not meaningless at all. It's meaningless to you, which I could care less about since the mad celestials have done more in 2 issues of feats than arishem has done in 30 years.
ONE Skyfather gave Galactus trouble and engaged him in a prolonged battle. Arishem laughed off the attack of THREE of the top skyfathers of Earth. You do the math.One skyfather KO'd himself and admitted his TP would have been insufficient against a stationary Galactus.
3 skyfathers, one of whom is dismissed from this thread? You can't accept the fact that Arishem has insufficient feats so you choose to dismiss the FF mad celestial arc is meaningless. Because without injecting your bias into it, you'd actually have no point, given that 3 mad celestials>>Adult franklin richards as proven on-panel.
Suddenly all you can do is scream and point at arishem shrugging off zeus, odin, and vishnu. hardly impressive at all, considering zeus is regarded as being superfluous in this thread, and a blood lusted, out-to-kill Odin KO'd himself attacking a passive Galactus, who was no where near as prepped for Odin as he was for the Mad Celestials.
Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
It's not meaningless at all. It's meaningless to you, which I could care less about since the mad celestials have done more in 2 issues of feats than arishem has done in 30 years.One skyfather KO'd himself and admitted his TP would have been insufficient against a stationary Galactus.
3 skyfathers, one of whom is dismissed from this thread? You can't accept the fact that Arishem has insufficient feats so you choose to dismiss the FF mad celestial arc is meaningless. Because without injecting your bias into it, you'd actually have no point, given that 3 mad celestials>>Adult franklin richards as proven on-panel.
Suddenly all you can do is scream and point at arishem shrugging off zeus, odin, and vishnu. hardly impressive at all, considering zeus is regarded as being superfluous in this thread, and a blood lusted, out-to-kill Odin KO'd himself attacking a passive Galactus, who was no where near as prepped for Odin as he was for the Mad Celestials.
That ONE skyfather was losing to Galactus, but he had him engaged in a prolonged battle, so much of Galactus' attention was focused on Odin that he coulnd't even defend himself from Thor's attack.
Imagine instead of flying into him like a moron, if Thor actually Godblasted Galactus' head off! Now imagine instead of Thor, Zeus and Vishnu joined Odin in his assault vs Galactus. Galactus would be completely fxxked. Yet Arishem ignored the combined attack of those three Skyfathers. He didn't even react.
