Obi-Wan Kenobi vs Revan

Originally posted by Arhael
I completely agree with you. I was merely pointing out at stupidity with which Drew tries to make his characters look like they are far stronger, than any other.

On that we can agree. My favorite part of that being.
Revan: The Emperor is more powerful than anyone we have ever faced Meetra. He consumed an entire planet with a force ritual.
Meetra: Wait...more powerful than Darth Nihlus who destroyed an entire planet with a word and TKed his entire fleet from the or...
Revan: ANYONE MEETRA!
Meetra: But...
Revan: This is the Revan novel, not the Revan and Meetra novel, none of your villains will even be so much as mentioned in this novel, and Darth Nihlus...well Obsidian shouldn't have made him so strong, cuz now we have to retcon him.
Meetra: Goddamn it, what's next am I going to get owned by a Dark Council member, and die without even putting up a fight....
Revan: ....
Meetra: Oh come on, next thing you'll tell me I'll be a force ghost protecting your genocidal ass for three hundred years. 💃

Originally posted by UltimateAnomaly
Well... I got the impression that Communism was pretty legit, but there are some people that think otherwise. Impressions and opinions are all well and good, but it doesn't help.

Yes, Revan defeated Malak, but how does Malak stack up in saber combat, compared to others? It's hard to judge Revan's abilities because KOTOR-wise it's pretty vague, and in the Revan novel, he's strong, but he's not exactly ubergodly like most people wanted him to be.

Malak states that with the powers of the Star Forge Revan would have been invincible. Malak is given powers of SF. using simple math we can form the following equations:

Revan > Malak + SF
Revan + SF = ~

SF < Revan - Malak
SF = ~ - Revan

~-Revan < Revan - Malak

2.Revan = ~ + Malak

Or you can express it in terms of order of magnitude which is:

Malak < Malak + SF < Revan < Revan + SF = ~

So what Revan needs to become invincible, he beat Malak when he had it without it himself. Meaning SF is veyr large quantity and it is extremely impressive that revan beat Malak with this.

Revan = ~ - SF
Revan = ~ - Revan + Malak + x
2.Revan = Malak + x + ~
Revan = Malak/2 + x/2 + ~/2

So he is "halfway to infinity" with half the power of malak and half the power or his victory over him, which makes him very deadly combatant.

Revan - Malak > SF

2.Revan - Malak - x = ~

Bear with me I am trying to form equation to represent Revan just in terms of ~.

Invincible compared to who? Stop trying to make up equations based on what was said by Malak. Did Malak know the full capabilities of Vitiate, or did he know about Nihilus and his planet busting powers?

Im sorry but this has simply become rather tiring. Making equations based on what people have said, and then assuming that due to your 'math skills' that Revan is a deadly fighter?

There's also the fact that Revan became a member of the family of the Ones on Mortis. Only the most powerful of Force Users were given that privilege.

Wtf? Where are people getting this, "Such and such became one of the Ones on Morits!" thing? And its always their favorite character and just so happens to support their argument or some such nonsense. Seriously people, there were 3. No more, no less. One to make the sandwiches, another to eat them, the final to envy. (Meaning the Son makes them, the Daughter eats them, and the Father envies them because he can't due to them having to high of cholesterol for him)

I mean really, first Ray, "Lul Qui-Gon became a member of the Ones lulz!"
Now you, "Lul Revan became a member of the Ones lulz!"

It has been confirmed in the source material that the family of Ones were made up of both the original family that had spread through inbreeding, as well as those that became honorary members in death. Confirmed members are The Father, The Mother, The Don, The Daughter, and Abeloth, but there was also honorary members like Qui-Gon Jinn, Bane and Revan. We didn't send up seeing Bane and Revan on Mortis because the producers didn't have time to write them into the show but they have confirmed that their spirits did reside on Mortis.

Originally posted by Arhael
I completely agree with you. I was merely pointing out at stupidity with which Drew tries to make his characters look like they are far stronger, than any other.

This is the absolute truth. Can you believe that he actually tries to suggest that Revan is more powerful than Nihilus? It's laughable. Luckily I was able to come up with a defense which renders Meetra's comparison invalid.

Originally posted by DarthTheDominat
Confirmed members are The Father, The Mother, The Don, The Daughter, and Abeloth

Originally posted by Nephthys
This is the absolute truth. Can you believe that he actually tries to suggest that Revan is more powerful than Nihilus? It's laughable. Luckily I was able to come up with a defense which renders Meetra's comparison invalid.

He does more than suggest, he does the closest thing he can do without outright saying it.
Luckily, Nihlus didn't really 'command the force' his own hunger and thus the Dark Side of the Force itself 'commanded him'. Also Drew throws out Traya's suggestion that the Exile is the most powerful student she ever trained. He should have at least made them fairly close in power. Instead the Exile is portrayed as less than half as powerful as Revan :facepalm.

I know right? What a hack.

Also Force Wounds feel incredibly strange through the Force, so there's no way that Meetra could have accurately gauged Nihilus' power.

Revan threads always descend into hilarity.

Originally posted by DarthTheDominat
It has been confirmed in the source material that the family of Ones were made up of both the original family that had spread through inbreeding, as well as those that became honorary members in death. Confirmed members are The Father, The Mother, The Don, The Daughter, and Abeloth, but there was also honorary members like Qui-Gon Jinn, Bane and Revan. We didn't send up seeing Bane and Revan on Mortis because the producers didn't have time to write them into the show but they have confirmed that their spirits did reside on Mortis.

I can believe the Revan part, in fact now that I think about it, I think I saw mention of Revan almost appearing in the Morits episodes...... And I can believe the Qui-Gon part, they would jump at an excuse to write him in again.

Originally posted by Pwned
Bane has no spirit. The price of failing the Essence Transfer ritual he attempted on Zannah is that his spirit is sent to the Void forever. There is no possible chance that he could be there, or be one of them.

I can believe the Revan part, in fact now that I think about it, I think I saw mention of Revan almost appearing in the Morits episodes...... And I can believe the Qui-Gon part, they would jump at an excuse to write him in again.

Except for that little part of him that remains behind in Zannah.

Revan and Bane were going to appear onMortis but Lucas said no.

See, thats what I always thought had happened. Was it confirmed?
😄

Idk, I bet that when she dies the bit of Bane left joins the rest of him.

And that makes sense. Lucas hates the cool guy and the one with the mask D:

Originally posted by Tzeentch._
Revan threads always descend into hilarity.

Seriously these asses of writers can't give us decent fvcking feats so these debates have some basis to them.

Yes, in fact hilariously enough, people initially took it as meaning that it had actually been Bane who had won, not Zannah, which led to awesome speculation that Bane was actually every Sith from then on, just essence transferring all the way down to Sidious.

Drew had to clarify that it was just some bullshit about how a small part of Bane lives in Zannah and all that kumbaya crap.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Yes, in fact hilariously enough, people initially took it as meaning that it had actually been Bane who had won, not Zannah, which led to awesome speculation that Bane was actually every Sith from then on, just essence transferring all the way down to Sidious.

Drew had to clarify that it was just some bullshit about how a small part of Bane lives in Zannah and all that kumbaya crap.

Drew strikes again! Why do some people worship this hack?