Soloing WWH

Originally posted by carver9
These rules that you all try to put into place for Superman speed needs to go across the board for every character. A non jobbing Surfer should create clones while moving at nano second speeds shooting creating Black holes and shooting planetary blast, while using Cosmic awareness.

Thor would create tornados along with using Chaos King level blast while teleporting and soul sucking.

Sentry should be using super speed while shooting planetary level blast, while ripping through atom, along with mind raping as well.

Lets not just do this for one character, share the wealth. Lets see how long these threads will last.

Except that your comparisons are horribly inaccurate, so your argument holds no weight.

Originally posted by carver9
These rules that you all try to put into place for Superman speed needs to go across the board for every character. A non jobbing Surfer should create clones while moving at nano second speeds shooting creating Black holes and shooting planetary blast, while using Cosmic awareness.

Thor would create tornados along with using Chaos King level blast while teleporting and soul sucking.

Sentry should be using super speed while shooting planetary level blast, while ripping through atom, along with mind raping as well.

Lets not just do this for one character, share the wealth. Lets see how long these threads will last.

That sounds nice and dandy, but I believe not all the characters have been stated to being able to use ALL of their powers at the same time.

Green Lantern, any one of them, with prep.

JLA satellite detectes the stone ship in our galaxy, the Green Lantern destroys it over Uranus. WWH is stopped.

You could replace GL with Firestorm. Who transmutes the stoneship into marshmallows.

Superman could just push it into the Sun.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Green Lantern, any one of them, with prep.

JLA satellite detectes the stone ship in our galaxy, the Green Lantern destroys it over Uranus. WWH is stopped.

You could replace GL with Firestorm. Who transmutes the stoneship into marshmallows.

Superman could just push it into the Sun.

I think a GL could beat him after he landed pretty easily as well.... if you consider grabbing him by the ankle with giant forceps and tossing him into the same sun.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
That sounds nice and dandy, but I believe not all the characters have been stated to being able to use ALL of their powers at the same time.

Surfer doesnt have to use it all at once to stomp any Herald.

The fantasy version of Surfer you're trying to make a point about doesn't exist. Just like Superman with the ability to solo 100,000 Hulks doesn't exist nor does Thor using all of his plot device powers all at the same time exist.

Extrapolation of feats is one thing, but when you start veering into territory that these characters clearly haven't displayed or even been alluded to using, you may as well just abandon ship right then and there.

Zauriel with his erasing you from the book of creation scream.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
The fantasy version of Surfer you're trying to make a point about doesn't exist. Just like Superman with the ability to solo 100,000 Hulks doesn't exist nor does Thor using all of his plot device powers all at the same time exist.

Extrapolation of feats is one thing, but when you start veering into territory that these characters clearly haven't displayed or even been alluded to using, you may as well just abandon ship right there and there.

I know but Surfer has shown these abilities so I guess we can use them in combat situations. Firestorm, Green Lantern, Surfer, Thor, could pretty much become unbeatable using the style of debate shown in this thread. Completely ignoring/contradicting everything shown on panel. It would become a battle of versatility/powerset.

Originally posted by carver9
Surfer doesnt have to use it all at once to stomp any Herald.

He should with the very fast ones can use all of their powers at the same time.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
He should with the very fast ones can use all of their powers at the same time.

Surfer would still stomp since he have speed of his own.

IMO all of this characters are fantasy version.

With rules that apply to our real world, We TRY to measure them.

Originally posted by carver9
I know but Surfer has shown these abilities so I guess we can use them in combat situations. Firestorm, Green Lantern, Surfer, Thor, could pretty much become unbeatable using the style of debate shown in this thread. Completely ignoring/contradicting everything shown on panel. It would become a battle of versatility/powerset.

How so? The JLa satellite monitors all incursions, they'd be pretty shit to not pick it up. Im assuming they hail the ship, and Hulk tells them he wants to seem bleed. Out of concern for the civilians, they intercept it before it arrives.

All in character.

Originally posted by carver9
Surfer would still stomp since he have speed of his own.

He is very powerful indeed, he is stomping some, but not all.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
How so? The JLa satellite monitors all incursions, they'd be pretty shit to not pick it up. Im assuming they hail the ship, and Hulk tells them he wants to seem bleed. Out of concern for the civilians, they intercept it before it arrives.

All in character.

What are you talking about?

Oh thought you were referring to me and my plans....

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
He is very powerful indeed, he is stomping some, but not all.

What Herald wouldn't he stomp?

Originally posted by carver9
I know but Surfer has shown these abilities so I guess we can use them in combat situations. Firestorm, Green Lantern, Surfer, Thor, could pretty much become unbeatable using the style of debate shown in this thread. Completely ignoring/contradicting everything shown on panel. It would become a battle of versatility/powerset.

No, it really wouldn't.

Originally posted by -Pr-
No, it really wouldn't.

What Herald would beat Surfer if we use what he has shown on panel?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Oh thought you were referring to me and my plans....

What plans? 😕

Originally posted by carver9
What Herald would beat Surfer if we use what he has shown on panel?

We don't argue by powerset. Period.

Anyone arguing for Surfer, or any character like that, would be going against the guidelines we've set out.