Superman vs Captain Marvel (slightly different)

Okay, this isn't the same old Boy scout Supes vs "in over his head because he's a little kid" Captain Marvel.

7 years in the future, Billy Batson is a teenager. He gets all the hormones and angst that comes with the territory. He lashes out, is continually angry, and becomes a severe problem child.

Billy changes into Cap M. and all his teenage rage goes with him. Superman begins to lecture him about some sort of thing and Billy flips out.

How does THIS Captain Marvel fare against Superman, throwing all his angst and rage into him without holding back?

Superman still wins.

So, this is a bloodlusted Billy vs. a Supes that's holding back I'm assuming?

Captain Marvel wins a majority.

Marvel should almost never be in over his head - Wisdom of Solomon and all that.

One thing about Superman vs CM fights- they're almost always done as a pure slugfest.

If Superman focuses more on range, he should win even if Billy is really aggressive.

This thread sucks.

Already happened in POS 46, superman stalemated him while trying to talk him down. Superman although less holding back stalemated a all out cap in MOS 102. Superman 6/10.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Already happened in POS 46, superman stalemated him while trying to talk him down. Superman although less holding back stalemated a all out cap in MOS 102. Superman 6/10.

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Captain Marvel 8/10 in a normal battle.

In this type of battle, he loses the majority.

Originally posted by carver9
Captain Marvel 8/10 in a normal battle.

In this type of battle, he loses the majority.

Cap would win

Supes would win, he has ranged attacks (including freeze breath that will slow CM down some) and is faster in combat.

^ Is Superman faster?

It would be nearly impossible to prove CM is faster than Superman, though I'd love to see someone try (in all seriousness). Based on feats, it's perfectly clear Superman is faster. By a lot.

Superman is a piec

Originally posted by Stoic
^ Is Superman faster?

Generally yes, though Billy isn't exactly slow.

Originally posted by Stoic
^ Is Superman faster?

flight speed i would say so, reflexes probably about on par.

I would give Captain Marvel the edge against "any" Superman type character, including Superman himself. Captain Marvel and Adam is a beast.

Originally posted by Q99
One thing about Superman vs CM fights- they're almost always done as a pure slugfest.

If Superman focuses more on range, he should win even if Billy is really aggressive.

NAh if supes tries to range him hes toast. billy will zap him with shazam thunder bolts. BIlly is fast enough to avoid supes and prevent the absolutly retarded grab fest supes pulls to revert billy into his teenage form. Personally never seen billy lose control so dont know what will happen. And dont want to hear the crap about supes rushing billy and grabbing him to convert him to billy. AT range cap on his game supes is not fast enough for marvel to not see this coming. Supes has a slight speed advantage but its not like alot. Supes has shown weakness to billys magical lighting. I havent seen billy show much weakness to HV.

still giving the edge to supes.

Originally posted by Stoic
^ Is Superman faster?

In combat yes. Now we use a characters entire history as evidence and not just the times Superman has fought CM. Thus using Superman's entire history he is significantly faster in combat. Also he can become intangible, something CM can't do.

Even assuming they have the same combat speed then Superman would still be tens to hundreds of times faster by simply slowing CM down a little with freeze breath. Supes known to multi task his powers in combat which is a huge advantage against CM.