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they gave superman plot armour, that should hold over the "wah, superman should have been the star before the reboot" guys for decades

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I won't argue that.

But right before the Flashpoint event, Superman was just kinda...there. He wasn't the focus point of the DCU, which is what pissed off a bunch of people because they felt John's forced the spotlight on Hal and company.

Considering how the War of Light saga had generally, been consistently good, and Superman's stories...well, hadn't, I can't see how that's Johns' or GL's fault. Some of the complaints online were hilarious, though.

I don't think being a "focus point" really matters, Superman might have just kinda been there... but he was just kinda there a lot... and "there" tended to be synonymous with "everywhere". Look at it through the lens of Wolverine. Outside of a few key stories like HoM or Schism, Wolverine is rarely integral to the plot of the X-men (never mind the greater Marvel U as a whole)... but I doubt there are many who would say he hasn't been over used. The guy has been virtually non existent in all of Marvel's huge events since HoM... he's barely played a role in AvX in spite of all the hype Marvel was doing about his involvement in the event... but he shows up a lot for bit parts in a ton of books and usually does nothing.

do you know how many teams wolverine is on? he's every-phuckin-where

he's the leader of x-force, his own x-team, and on the avengers at the same time

Originally posted by psycho gundam
do you know how many teams wolverine is on? he's every-phuckin-where

he's the leader of x-force, his own x-team, and on the avengers at the same time

Being a member of a bunch of teams goes down easier than a bunch of solo titles. At least on a team there is division of labor and task delegation. Plus if the cast is large enough Wolverine can just not show up like he did for the majority of New Avengers v1.

Also a good deal of Wolverine and the X-Men (and it's sister books) has revolved around no one being able to find Wolverine because of his schedule and Kitty or Rachel having to step up in his absence. Which is funny, but good to address.

stop, you can't justify this

Didn't Wolverine also have like 30 solo titles running at the same time?

Originally posted by Galan007
Before Flashpoint, Batman and Lanterns were featured in a LOT more monthly comics than Superman-- who only had 2 or 3 books, iirc.

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Superman wasn't even in his own books for a while due to the World of New Krypton event.

That coupled with the epics Morrison and Johns put out for Batman and GL and all the tie ins they spawned pushed Superman to the background.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
they gave superman plot armour, that should hold over the "wah, superman should have been the star before the reboot" guys for decades

One of the more colorful complaints was that Morrison and Johns had a joint conspiracy to make Batman and GL the stars of DC and the new "World's Finest" because they hate Superman....even though they both wrote great and acclaimed Superman stories before that. 😐

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Didn't Wolverine also have like 30 solo titles running at the same time?

He had four going once, but one stared Daken as "Dark Wolverine," and one was a "untold tales" type book feature stories from the past.

Originally posted by carver9
Aquaman is overused.

You're dead to me.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
pre-flashpoint.

If you want to go back to IC and such, sure. But just before Flashpoint, he was horribly under-represented.

not literally right before flashpoint

I think Superman's down hill turn came right after Final Crisis, which ironically, was basically a testament to Superman being gawd in DC.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I think Superman's down hill turn came right after Final Crisis, which ironically, was basically a testament to Superman being gawd in DC.

It started when James Robinson started writing the book, and McDuffie took more control of JLA.