Captain America (movie) vs Bane (movie)

Started by ctsketch3 pages

Originally posted by KingD19
In the movies, he's basically superhuman. No way a peak human throws a man out of the ocean and onto a dock while treading water.

No way a peak human holds up a 900+lb motorcyle with at least 300 more pounds added to it because of women sitting on top.

No way a peak human nearly punches through steel.

etc..

the bench press world record is 1075 LBs and Cap is supposed to be better than the top athlete...so...yeah....

Originally posted by Mindset
Being the pinnacle of human potential is superhuman.

No, its peak human, super human implies being BEYOND human

Originally posted by ctsketch
the bench press world record is 1075 LBs and Cap is supposed to be better than the top athlete...so...yeah....
Are you saying you agree with him or are trying to prove him wrong?

No peak is the best shape a human can achieve, Cap is enhanced peak thus super human or the "pinnacle" of human development.

Originally posted by Newjak
Are you saying you agree with him or are trying to prove him wrong?

I'm saying it's within the realm of human possibility it's just that no one on earth is peak human right now, but with the formula Cap is peak human. Records are always being broken, I bet in a decade that 1075 lb record will be shattered and we WILL have a person who can achieve the motorcycle feat

Originally posted by ctsketch
I'm saying it's within the realm of human possibility it's just that no one on earth is peak human right now, but with the formula Cap is peak human. Records are always being broken, I bet in a decade that 1075 lb record will be shattered and we WILL have a person who can achieve the motorcycle feat
Peak human is identified by what the human best is by today's standards.

Also Cap's Motorcycle feats is insanely impressive.

I looked online and the best records for an overhead press lift was like 500 something.

That is them exerting their max force trying to get it above their heads for one second.

Cap did likely twice that weight with ease.

That is clearly Superhuman compared to today's standards.

Originally posted by Newjak
Peak human is identified by what the human best is by today's standards.

Also Cap's Motorcycle feats is insanely impressive.

I looked online and the best records for an overhead press lift was like 500 something.

That is them exerting their max force trying to get it above their heads for one second.

Cap did likely twice that weight with ease.

That is clearly Superhuman compared to today's standards.

Peak Human State

To be at the peak of human condition.
The ability to have your bodily functions at the maximum limit of human potential; meaning that your natural capabilities are near-superhuman

if it's within human potential it is not SUPER human. the strongest athlete around today is not peak human...he is just the strongest, peak human applies there is nowhere left to go

Are you saying you believe that roughly 1200lbs held over ones head for not only an extended amount of time, but with both arms fully extended and locked is within the realm of human possibility? Legit question.

Originally posted by KingD19
Are you saying you believe that roughly 1200lbs held over ones head for not only an extended amount of time, but with both arms fully extended and locked is within the realm of human possibility? Legit question.

first of all full locked out is the most efficient way to hold a weight firmly overhead as you are using skeletal as well as muscle, holding something in a partial press and is purely muscle. which is why snatches and jerks are done in the locked out position (same with something like rock climbing, you want your arms straight supporting your weight instead of bent to conserve energy

The current overhead press record is 500 lbs currently yes, but records are broken every year. I'm saying an absolutely perfect human being may be able to lift 1200 lbs we just haven't figured out how to achieve perfection right now. Cap achieved that perfection through a chemical.

Originally posted by ctsketch
Peak Human State

To be at the peak of human condition.
The ability to have your bodily functions at the maximum limit of human [B]potential
; meaning that your natural capabilities are near-superhuman [/B]

your definition speaks of the impossible. Therefore it is superhuman. If a single human ever reached your definition then they would be creating crazy insane feats that are far far out of human reach...

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
your definition speaks of the impossible. Therefore it is superhuman. If a single human ever reached your definition then they would be creating crazy insane feats that are far far out of human reach...

So you're saying being the best possible human being makes you....not human?

Bottom line, Cap >>> Bane.

kind of....

If someone were at peak then they would have access to every muscle fiber in their body. This would cause extreme tension on the rest of your body so your bodys durability would have to increase to the same level of insanity. That way when I picked a car up over my head I wouldn't be torn apart from the inside. You would also have to be the biggest possible muscle build while retaining the worlds greatest agility, balance, and speed....

People with big muscles could retain some athleticism but there is always a trade off.

EDITED: To fix some misspelled words

It's simply not possible for someone to be the best at everything physically. Like there's no way a guy who benches presses 1200 lbs can run faster than Usain Bolt and swim faster than Michael Phelps and etc...

It's not humanly possible without further evolution or genetic modification to reach the pinnacle of everything like Cap. He's superhuman based on feats and definition.

I think Joe Johnston described Captain America in the movie as the "fastest and strongest athlete in the world+25%".

I think that basically qualifies him as superhuman.

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
kind of....

If someone were at peak then they would have access to every muscle fiber in their body. This would cause extreme tension on the rest of your body so your bodys durability would have to increase to the same level of insanity. That way when I picked a car up over my head I wouldn't be torn apart from the inside. You would also have to be the biggest possible muscle build while retaining the worlds greatest agility, balance, and speed....

People with big muscles could retain some athleticism but there is always a trade off.

EDITED: To fix some misspelled words

Very true, being an all around athlete is hard.... I run, lift and do martial art...I don't bulk up too much because it messes with my martial arts and my running, and I am not the fastest runner because I am heavy from weight lifting :/

Originally posted by ctsketch
No, its peak human, super human implies being BEYOND human
First, you need to actually know the definition of super human.

Second, well, once you know that the rest should fall in line.

Originally posted by KingD19
It's simply not possible for someone to be the best at everything physically. Like there's no way a guy who benches presses 1200 lbs can run faster than Usain Bolt and swim faster than Michael Phelps and etc...

It's not humanly possible without further evolution or genetic modification to reach the pinnacle of everything like Cap. He's superhuman based on feats and definition.

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