Re: Thor vs Martian Manhunter
Originally posted by ozz81
MM at best and peak vs1.Regular/classic Thor
2.KT
3.RKTWho wins in each of the above how and why?
Ok man...Thor and martianmanhunter are in the same ball park. Regular Thor. If you throw in two other Thors who are vastly superior to Thor its gonna be spite of epic proportions. So just stick to regular Thor with theses types of guys bro 🙂
Thor's best is beyond J'onn's best, so, yeah, if J'onn happened to phase, speedblitz, use telepathy, and amp his physical attributes all at once - which I doubt as I can't recall anytime J'onn ever fought like that in the pages of a comic, I have no doubt Thor could and would beat him for the majority.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Thor's best is beyond J'onn's best, so, yeah, if J'onn happened to phase, speedblitz, use telepathy, and amp his physical attributes all at once - which I doubt as I can't recall anytime J'onn ever fought like that in the pages of a comic, I have no doubt Thor could and would beat him for the majority.
Not when he can amp. He's already faced the entire League and made Apollo look like a fool. Not to mention he can absorb the planet for more power. And I doubt he can resist MM telepathy. If he can put down Spectre, he can put down Thor.
Originally posted by Golgo13
Not when he can amp. He's already faced the entire League and made Apollo look like a fool. Not to mention he can absorb the planet for more power. And I doubt he can resist MM telepathy. If he can put down Spectre, he can put down Thor.
And Thor's feats are clearly above J'onn's. There's a handful of people in the herald tier who can tie or beat Thor in the "feat war" game, and Martian Manhunter is not one of them.
He's resisted the likes of Rachel and Phoenix amped Emma, Loki amped Sandu, Odin, the Twilight Sword amped Morgan Le Fay who warped reality, and Glory, a being comprised of tens of thousands of gods.
So yes, he has the mental feats - plenty, actually - to ward off J'onn.
Originally posted by ColossusGrundy
If for no other reason, the more powerful Thor gets, the more arrogant he is.I think he does beat him due to underestimation, but not handily, more like a technical win.
If anything that would count towards a fluke or slim chance of victory J'onn has.
In a direct confrontation, even with telepathy involved, J'onn is getting destroyed by King Thor, especially later on in the Reigning. Thor was arrogant, but when he wanted people dead, they died.
Originally posted by Golgo13
And MM has taken down the League and Spectre. He has high feats for himself. I just don't Thor lasting against someone with all those powers. And it seems MM is using them more intelligently lately.
Seems to me you're using both pre-Flashpoint and DCnU J'onn feats to make your case. I'm not opposed to either one being debated here, but you can't have it both ways.
In any case, Thor's high end feats are clearly and obviously greater than those of Manhunter's. He has high end feats, sure, but not on Thor's level.
Originally posted by Golgo13
I don't think Thor can hang with all the members of DCnU JL, anyway.
If they were being jobbed out and fighting under ninja law like the League does to put over whomever they're fighting, I don't see why he couldn't, especially with the massive AoE attacks he has at his disposal.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Seems to me you're using both pre-Flashpoint and DCnU J'onn feats to make your case. I'm not opposed to either one being debated here, but you can't have it both ways.In any case, Thor's high end feats are clearly and obviously greater than those of Manhunter's. He has high end feats, sure, but not on Thor's level.
The feats I'm using, he has done both pre-flashpoint and DCnU.