Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Here we go with the WBH is a skyfather train wreck of an argument again. You've been owned so badly on this every time you bring it up, by so many different people, I'm being to think you're a sado-masochist.
WTF? I was never owned on this and how can someone OWN something that was stated on panel? Do I need to post the scan?
Originally posted by carver9
What about him performing a ft a skyfather couldn't even accomplish? Umar clearly needed Hulk help taking out the mindless ones, it was stated in the comic more than once. Not only did Hulk help take out beings that a skyfather couldn't stop, he melted them while being a couple of Hundred ft in the air without even directly attacking them.
Originally posted by Gecko4lif
Show umar trying.
I don't have to show her trying since it was stated she couldn't stop them. Umar has had plenty if experience with the Mindless Ones to know if she can or can't stop them. I can show you Dormammu failing to stop them more than once and Umar is currently tapping into his power.
Originally posted by Gecko4lif
No.An arguement could be made for low trans if you disregard the lack of trans feats
A Trans level character is one that could defeat a team of Herald level characters correct? Well the Hulk at that level would be able to do just that. To reduce the Hulk at this level to a mere Herald level character would mean that you would also have to reduce any character that the Savage Hulk fought to a standstill to Meta. Let's not forget Merged Hulk's feat of punching the Abomination so hard that he nearly passed out, and he was the size of a mouse at the time of the feat, or that Merged Hulk stalemated with Thor while Thor was going for the kill. Perhaps you might want to reconsider you opinion, because according to canonical history, the Hulk at the level that he was at during the Dark Dimension was a solid Trans.
Let me show you another angle. The Red She Hulk at normal levels punched through a dimensional barrier, and caught the fleeing Avengers who left her behind. Now during the Dark Dimension, she was able to grow at speed that the Hulk was able to due to the Wishing Well. he was far above any showing that he has ever had in a comic. Blowing up a planet by directly attacking, punching, or blasting it is something that many (not all) high Heralds can do, but throwing a punch that was not directed at the planet, and blowing up more than the planet is something above this class.
Originally posted by Stoic
A Trans level character is one that could defeat a team of Herald level characters correct? Well the Hulk at that level would be able to do just that. To reduce the Hulk at this level to a mere Herald level character would mean that you would also have to reduce any character that the Savage Hulk fought to a standstill to Meta. Let's not forget Merged Hulk's feat of punching the Abomination so hard that he nearly passed out, and he was the size of a mouse at the time of the feat, or that Merged Hulk stalemated with Thor while Thor was going for the kill. Perhaps you might want to reconsider you opinion, because according to canonical history, the Hulk at the level that he was at during the Dark Dimension was a solid Trans.
Let me show you another angle. The Red She Hulk at normal levels punched through a dimensional barrier, and caught the fleeing Avengers who left her behind. Now during the Dark Dimension, she was able to grow at speed that the Hulk was able to due to the Wishing Well. he was far above any showing that he has ever had in a comic. Blowing up a planet by directly attacking, punching, or blasting it is something that many (not all) high Heralds can do, but throwing a punch that was not directed at the planet, and blowing up more than the planet is something above this class.
Originally posted by Gecko4lif
That litterally did nothing for your case. And You are neglecting the fact thor has beaten hulk more times than not.No. It isnt. It just happen because herald dont generally have to resort to fisticuffs. Not that it is their strong suit anyway. Where as fisticuffs is literally all hulk has. Thats it. Its the anything he is good at. If he wasnt capable of at least as much he wouldnt even been high herald. And that is ignoring that fact that 1. He was obviously amped. And 2 its a shared feat
Well then this is where a discussion like this goes two ways. Seen for what it was. Or low balled. You need to take score of their battles, because from what I know they are about even. WB Hulk was far above Thor, and shots that would have rocked Thor were not felt by the Hulk. Sort of like when Tyrant didn't feel Gladiators punch, and guess who beat Gladiator nearly to death at a much lower level? I'm pretty much guessing that next you'll begin low balling Gladiator because of the butt whipping he took from the Hulk. Not to worry, you and I rarely agree on anything so I won't waste my time.
WBH was not amped in that feat in any way shape or form. And yeah WBH taking out the totality of the race of mindless ones which Umar couldnt defeat even in her own dimension where she is strongest, Wendigo, an amped Fing fang foom, Armcheddon and Bi Beast with the residual shockwave of a collision of midair blows with Betty is certainly above the general levels of those in the high herald class and places him firmly in trans.
As for this thread. He wouldnt get oneshotted by any. Hed could get a hole blown through him by King Thor but would heal.
Re: WBH is a striking gauntlet
Originally posted by red sabre
in this gauntlet WBH is standing still and each of the following guys gets 1 shot at him but its an all out no holding back shot, what happends to WBH after each of those strikes? here we go...1.Superman
2.Thor (mjolnir strike)
3.Thanos
4.superman 1M
5.Superboy prime
6.King thor (the desak beheading mjolnir toss)
7.Superman prime
1.Superman-Hurts him
2.Thor (mjolnir strike)- hurts him worse
3.Thanos- hurts him
4.superman 1M-idk
5.Superboy prime- phucks him up
6.King thor (the desak beheading mjolnir toss)- Obliterates him
7.Superman prime- phucks him up