Superman vs Thor, Hulk, Iron Man, Juggernaut

Started by pym-ftw4 pages

Thor solos
Hulk with both in character could one shot supes

Ironman loses hard
Juggs stands there looking confused

Wolverine was cutting Thor with the claws. Superman would do far more damage.

Originally posted by ColossusGrundy
Someone hates DC or superman it looks like

I dont hate superman or Dc. I just dont find Superman a very likable character.
and i was stating my opinion on the battles. Seems to me like your not to fond of marvel, how can one guy fight 4 guys who are on his level (if not higher) and win?

I'll give you Thor, and to a lesser extent Hulk being on Superman's level. Not Juggernaut, and DEFINITELY not Iron Man.

Well with my obvious lack of belief that sups can even use those claws he wins. IronMan is done. Juggs gets an A for effort but all he gets. Hulk gets shown that he is not the strongest there is.

EDIT: forgot about Thor lol. He is the biggest problem for superman. He has potential to defeat Superman.

Re: Superman vs Thor, Hulk, Iron Man, Juggernaut

Originally posted by keiththegreat
Juggernaut is classic Juggernaut
Hulk is current HUlk

Superman fights the team on Marvel Earth NYC

Superman has an adamantium skeleton just like wolverine with retractable claws. Everything else about Superman is the same.

Who wins?

Hulk gets clawed up bad.

Juggy gets BFRed.

Iron Man gets carved apart.

Thor gets some wins.

Don't forget, even without the claws, being punched by Superman with adamantium knuckle dusters? Ouchie.

It's possible for Thor to exploit supes weaknesses that's why he wins and supes can't really hurt juggs or hulk for that matter its all just a waiting game

Ironman has no purpose here

Hulk's skin has been pierced by everything from normal darts to bone. We all know what Wolverine's claws have done to him. Imagine what a guy who moves faster than light with the strength to punch a planet to dust with adamantium claws is going to do to Hulk's flesh?

Hulk's regen is stupidly high, but as other posters have said I can't see the claws piercing supes's knuckles.

In all honesty, supes has to take Thor out before he starts siphoning solar energyfrom him or even tony will be able to do damage

Thor himself can defeat Superman. With this team, it's a laugher.

(Perhaps if you included the PIS power Logan possesses with his claws & skeleton...)

And Hulk's also gotten more durable as a fight's gone on. It doesn't take any time for him to already become too durable to affect (as quite a few instances in WWH demonstrated).

He's already been shot through with adamantium bullets without any lasting effect, and he's also had an adamantium bullet bounce off his eyeball.

Superman isn't doing anything.

Funny how ppl say Thor could solo, but the last Thor/Supes encounter that I read, Supes KO'd Thor pretty quickly before being attacked by most of the marvel roster that was present.

Supes is WAY too versatile (and fast) for Thor to solo. It's a ridiculous argument.

How is Superman going to cope with the adamantium poisoning? with the pain of the skeleton bonding, with the continual cutting of the blades?

I get the impression that this isn't really going to be a 'versus' fight, on one side there'll be a bunch of characters standing around, on the other Superman writhing on the floor, excruciating pain everywhere in his body...

He needs Wolverine's HF and experience with the pain.

You know Thor is also a multi time ftl combatant and can pretty much create HV/FB so arguing the versatility card for supes is a losing battle

Supes is faster, stronger, and has a higher level of invulnerablity

Thor is a better fighter, has more versatility, and a higher striking power

It can be argued either way, but the other guys tip the balance way to much

Originally posted by janus77
And Hulk's also gotten more durable as a fight's gone on. It doesn't take any time for him to already become too durable to affect (as quite a few instances in WWH demonstrated).

He's already been shot through with adamantium bullets without any lasting effect, and he's also had an adamantium bullet bounce off his eyeball.

Superman isn't doing anything.

This.

Let's also not forget he had holes punched through him and healed near instantly.

I think the spirit of the OP is that the adamantium doesn't poison him and the claws can somehow retract through his fists. Also that Superman is willing to cut people to death. Otherwise this is a pretty stupid debate.

(I agree that all of that shouldn't be the case, but for the sake of argument I'll assume those 3 things to be true).

Originally posted by pym-ftw
You know Thor is also a multi time ftl combatant and can pretty much create HV/FB so arguing the versatility card for supes is a losing battle

Supes is faster, stronger, and has a higher level of invulnerablity

Thor is a better fighter, has more versatility, and a higher striking power

It can be argued either way, but the other guys tip the balance way to much

I've never seen anything for Thor so suggest he has higher striking power than Superman. And it's not even close IMO. Like I said before, it's VERY generous to say Superman is twice as strong as Thor.

I'll say Thor is more versatile, assuming he uses it, but the most versatile he gets these days is using lightning. I'm not even 100% sure we can say he still has all of these esoteric powers like magnetism anymore. When's the last time he used something like that? I can think of 100s of times it would have come in handy.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
You know Thor is also a multi time ftl combatant and can pretty much create HV/FB so arguing the versatility card for supes is a losing battle

Supes is faster, stronger, and has a higher level of invulnerablity

Thor is a better fighter, has more versatility, and a higher striking power

It can be argued either way, but the other guys tip the balance way to much


Thor is a statue compared to superman. Superman also hits harder. All his versatility is in vain when superman can just vibrate his hand and rip out his heart at multiple times lightspeed.
Originally posted by carver9
This.

Let's also not forget he had holes punched through him and healed near instantly.


Doom's chainshaw carved him like a turkey.

Originally posted by janus77
How is Superman going to cope with the adamantium poisoning? with the pain of the skeleton bonding, with the continual cutting of the blades?

I get the impression that this isn't really going to be a 'versus' fight, on one side there'll be a bunch of characters standing around, on the other Superman writhing on the floor, excruciating pain everywhere in his body...

He needs Wolverine's HF and experience with the pain.

Originally posted by carver9
This.

Let's also not forget he had holes punched through him and healed near instantly.

Change the rules of this thread to give the hulk a better chance? If the adamantium is coating superman's skeleton loke wolverine's then it's another layer of protection. Super Claws is going to slice and dice some giant green troll. LOL

If this was PIS off and not taking place in a comic with all the usual restrictions on the fight, I honestly think this would end with Thor, Hulk, Iron Man dead, and without BFR, Juggernaut stalemated.

Iron Man would be cut apart in fractions of a second.

I'm afraid Thor would just get killed. He can be cut, and Silver Surfer fights or not, he can't really take on the sort of speed Superman demonstrates. This would be far worse than the Wolverine fight.

Hulk will likewise get sliced to pieces but it's more interesting - this is like Speedfreek x1000. How much superspeed punishment can he take? What would happen if Supes did a move like Space Hulk pulled on Space Deadpool in Space Punisher?

Take the insane DC level speed out of the equation or add the usual acceptable levels of PIS we see in the average comic, and the team should win handily.