King Thor vs Shazam

who do you think would win.

Shazam The Wizard?! He BFRs him to the end of the universe.

Kt could un-brf himself

Kt can teleport lol.

how would that work? Would the BFR mean instant win or would there be a "ring out" type of thing?

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
how would that work? Would the BFR mean instant win or would there be a "ring out" type of thing?

TBH BFR is a cheap way out. I think the thread starter may have had a true battle in mind, and not the cheapness that BFR sort of suggests. Anyways, it should be a good fight, but if the ROE is the battle ground KT loses badly. Outside of the ROE I'd give KT the nod.

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
how would that work? Would the BFR mean instant win or would there be a "ring out" type of thing?

Originally posted by Stoic
TBH BFR is a cheap way out. I think the thread starter may have had a true battle in mind, and not the cheapness that BFR sort of suggests. Anyways, it should be a good fight, but if the ROE is the battle ground KT loses badly. Outside of the ROE I'd give KT the nod.

I agree it is very cheep but I think the spirit of most battles as you stated and BFR is still a tactic. It may be a very cheep one but its still a tactic none the less.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
Brf mean one combatant is removed and cannot return under there own power

so just straight up they can't come back? There is no like ring out effect? Like a 10 second count out? No rule stating if it takes someone longer to return then a certain amount of time or if it takes more time then the other competitor takes to leave the area then its over? For instance if Thor couldn't port himself but could still fly back but it would take x amount of time....is that still a BFR? Im just trying to understand the extent of the rule. I mean I have been around here for awhile and I know what it is I just don't know the perimeters of the rule.

^there's a general rule of ten count but we really base it on if they could return fairly quickly

BFR only becomes an auto-win, if the character in question is unable to return to the field in a reasonable amount of time.

In this case, however, Thor can just teleport right back to the field immediately after getting BFR'd.

Originally posted by Stoic
TBH BFR is a cheap way out. I think the thread starter may have had a true battle in mind, and not the cheapness that BFR sort of suggests. Anyways, it should be a good fight, but if the ROE is the battle ground KT loses badly. Outside of the ROE I'd give KT the nod.

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
how would that work? Would the BFR mean instant win or would there be a "ring out" type of thing?

ok thanks guys!

Wonder if King Thor is jobbing royally like regular Thor is nowadays.

Outside of the RoE, I don't see Shazam winning this at all.

^ Does the good wizard even have feats outside the Rock?

Originally posted by Galan007
^ Does the good wizard even have feats outside the Rock?

Very few of them, and not a whole lot which put him on a low/mid Skyfather level, either.

Off the top of my head, physically, Shazam is at least on par with Captain Marvel considering he had the powers of VLAREM! (an acronym of gods whom he was championing back as Jebediah of Canaan). He was able to fight back against the Three Faces of Evil, a demon he trapped in the RoE where Cap and Black Adam fared less capable against. He also has the power to discharge powerful magical based lightning, as seen when he dealt with Eclipso-Superman. He also, presumebly, has the ability to cast various spells.

Still, combat wise, Shazam doesn't have the feats to deal with King Thor in a neutral environment.

This isnt necessarily a combat feat but he turned adam and isis into stone outside of the RoE.

True, but he did that to their human forms after he depowered them.

Such a feat has no bearing on King Thor.