Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Literally one with the supreme being or just really powerful? 😬
lol he had so much power is what I meant. He was in multiple places all at the same time including other planets. He was actually in all of those places at once to they were not constructs. He could materialize or dematerialize things by sheer force of will. He could alter time without changing the future. He even was watching the past through time windows that he chose to open. Also an alien invasion was threatening earth and by the time batman announced the incoming threat Kyle had been there waved his hand and sent them across the universe. He told everyone he already dealt with it and he could have simply sent them away but he wanted to make his presence known. On a less impressive note he was able to read minds by reading the impulses in their brains.
Originally posted by BlackZero30x
lol he had so much power is what I meant. He was in multiple places all at the same time including other planets. He was actually in all of those places at once to they were not constructs. He could materialize or dematerialize things by sheer force of will. He could alter time without changing the future. He even was watching the past through time windows that he chose to open. Also an alien invasion was threatening earth and by the time batman announced the incoming threat Kyle had been there waved his hand and sent them across the universe. He told everyone he already dealt with it and he could have simply sent them away but he wanted to make his presence known. On a less impressive note he was able to read minds by reading the impulses in their brains.
Sounds powerful, very powerful but the being in multiple places at once isnt omnipotent, Dr Manhattan can do that, Eternity can do that, the Phoenix Force does that all the time. In fact Eternity embodies everything along the chronal axis and the Phoenix Force is everything, literally the sum and substance of all.
As for changing time without changing the future, thats standard in Marvel, changing an event does not change the future, it creates an alternate future leaving the main timeline unaffected. If you meant something else then please set me straight cos im obviously just responding based on your explanation without having read the comic myself.
And interstellar transport is something the mutant Lila Cheney does without breaking a sweat.
I may read the comic and find myself wowed by these feats, but i have a sneaking suspision that the feats arent actually unprecedented or as great as people believe, they are just taken in or in awe by the way these abilities were presented when in fact theyre well within the abilities or other cosmics.
I could be wrong. You got any issue numbers? Thanks mate 👆
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Sounds powerful, very powerful but the being in multiple places at once isnt omnipotent, Dr Manhattan can do that, Eternity can do that, the Phoenix Force does that all the time. In fact Eternity embodies everything along the chronal axis and the Phoenix Force is everything, literally the sum and substance of all.As for changing time without changing the future, thats standard in Marvel, changing an event does not change the future, it creates an alternate future leaving the main timeline unaffected. If you meant something else then please set me straight cos im obviously just responding based on your explanation without having read the comic myself.
And interstellar transport is something the mutant Lila Cheney does without breaking a sweat.
I may read the comic and find myself wowed by these feats, but i have a sneaking suspision that the feats arent actually unprecedented or as great as people believe, they are just taken in or in awe by the way these abilities were presented when in fact theyre well within the abilities or other cosmics.
I could be wrong. You got any issue numbers? Thanks mate 👆
No problem. Though for changing time He was going to stop coast city from being destroyed for hal(while hal was specter) with out changing the ensuing future so he would still be Ion. That to me is amazing because it directly dictates him becoming Ion. So in short it would have taken place in the same timeline instead of "branching out" into an alternate time-streams. One distinct thing comes to mind with him being in multiple places at once. He was at work in his art studio while at the exact same time he was in the starving regions of the world just materializing food packages for them and on a planet far of in the universe. He stated that he was in all of these places doing all of these things at the same time. He was kind of ruling this planet by dematerializeing all of their weapons and drugs and forcing them to be at peace with each other. He was perceiving all events that he was doing at once as well yet able to distinguish between them. His ability to send people a way at will without even being by them is kind of cool imo. It all took place during his first Ion arc. Green Lantern: The Power of Ion.
Originally posted by CogitoGood, because peer by peer comparisons do. People who judge by feats alone think Superman can stomp people well outside his weight class. Superman's feats didn't help him against Black Racer now did they ? If you can't think for yourself don't expect me to do your thinking for you either.
....I'm gonna hold onto this one...
Originally posted by CogitoYeah, because if you lift 10 million pounds and then go up against me while I easily overpower and beat you your feat doesn't mean anything. I don't need to lift that weight to prove I am stronger than you. Your lesson is over, padawan.
That makes a lot of sense 👆
Portrayals, kid.
Originally posted by BlackZero30x
No problem. Though for changing time He was going to stop coast city from being destroyed for hal(while hal was specter) with out changing the ensuing future so he would still be Ion. That to me is amazing because it directly dictates him becoming Ion. So in short it would have taken place in the same timeline instead of "branching out" into an alternate time-streams. One distinct thing comes to mind with him being in multiple places at once. He was at work in his art studio while at the exact same time he was in the starving regions of the world just materializing food packages for them and on a planet far of in the universe. He stated that he was in all of these places doing all of these things at the same time. He was kind of ruling this planet by dematerializeing all of their weapons and drugs and forcing them to be at peace with each other. He was perceiving all events that he was doing at once as well yet able to distinguish between them. His ability to send people a way at will without even being by them is kind of cool imo. It all took place during his first Ion arc. Green Lantern: The Power of Ion.
Im not familiar with the timeline alteration rules that DC writers follow. So its hard to tell how impressive that feat is. But theres nothing to suggest from your explanation anything beyond other powerful beings. With a level of omniscience and an ability to perceive future events and instances that lead to said events it would be conceivable that Ion could have fixed Coast City and made sure events after that point in the timeline played out in a fashion that meant he still became Ion. That could be achieved through mind control. Not saying that's what he did do, but that thats how it could be achieved. Furthermore the way you explained that feat was as if Ion never actually did it and that it was something he offered to do or said he could do without actually doing it on panel. Is that true?
As for being in multiple places at once doing different things simultaneously, thats a feat achievable by many non uber beings. Impressive but not to the point wheres hes up there with the Abstracts etc.
Im def gonna have a read of that Ion story though, sounds like a good read 🙂