Originally posted by Damborgson
But he's never shown the ability to. Them sharing a kamehameha and a gi doesn't mean we can give Goku's feats to Krillin. Who was never Super saiyain in level even by the end of his career.Plus even he was Wolverines claws> Trunks' blade.
Originally posted by Astner
Yes. They're using the exact same source of power, chi.That's the authors of Marvel failing to understand the physics of pressure and resilience.
If a steel blade -- like Deadpool's -- can parry Wolverines' slashes at any time then it's not going to injure Krillin, period.
If Wolverine is able to cut Thanos then that only proves the Thanos' lacking resilience, not Wolverine's power.
Do you know how the durability of an object is connected to the pressure it can exert on another object in rigid body mechanics? It isn't! Trunk's slashes were more powerful because Trunks swung the blade at speeds unattainable to Wolverine, it has nothing to do with durability.
There's nothing left to debate -- and there never was -- this is a stomp, and you're lacking the basic understanding required as far as physics are concerned.
Cool dude. Doesn't mean squat. Give me feats from Krillin. Not feats from Goku and wish they were Krillins. Which are still inadquate to deal with Wolverines claws btw.
and you think Toriyama does lol? His own manga has so many inconsistencies it's ridculous.
......Dead pool? That joke of a character is your argument? Nice.
If Wolverine can affect Thor with his claws, he rips krillin in half. Period.
No it proves Wolverine can cut beings that are far and away superior to Krillin in feats.
Lol dude. These are comics and Manga. We have characters going into space without the lack of pressure causing their head to explode and light speed being childs play despite it being physically impossible to obtain. Big words and real world arguments are worthless. It's all about on panel feats.
I never disagreed Krillin stomps by the way.
And you're right there is nothing left to debate. You didn't put up a much of a fight and have a ways to go before you learn. But it's not your fault. The ending couldn't have been different.
Krillin shit stomps as long as he stays away from those claws.
Originally posted by BloodRain
Being a Super Saiyan has nothing to do with it. Its the level of ki they have. That Goku's ki/strength/all stats < 18 = EoS Krillin.
Yes and what increases with the level of Super saiyan? Could it be Ki? Thats what I'm saying. Krillin doesn't have the Ki to stop blades like Wolverines.
It's because of these existential retreats like this that I avoid getting into debates in versus communities.
Originally posted by BloodRain
Super Saiyan Goku's ki at that point < 18 = EoS Krillen.
This thread is ridiculous.
Originally posted by Astner
It's because of these existential retreats like this that I avoid getting into debates in versus communities.You can just as easily use the argument that bullets are deforming on Roshi's palms as he catches them. Wolverine can't swing his arm faster than the muzzle velocity of a submachine gun bullet, and so he can't cut Roshi, yet alone Krillin.
This thread is ridiculous.
You mean because you can't prove your points. 😂
Thats why you didn't respond directly. Because you can't.
Thats cute. This last post of yours is mirror image of your arguments. Basless and to be trusted on your word alone.
I backed up my argument with feats and reason. You blathered about other characters who are not Krillin and tried to give him their feats.
Then you tried to use real world physics lol. On a comic book. 😆
But yes your inability to prove anything at all means you win.
Originally posted by AstnerSo...basically Krillin's durability > Thanos with Power Gem/Thor/Hulk/etc?
Wolverine's skeleton would tear out of his skin and muscles before putting as much as a scratch on Krillin if Wolverine tried to slash him.If Krillin isn't able to kill Wolverine, he'll at least be able to knock him out.
Originally posted by Damborgson
Prove it. Black hair goku is more than anything Krillin could ever hope to be. And he was getting a work out from lifting 1 ton per limb. Wolverines not like spiderman or something but I doubt he couldn't compete with Krillin.
Lol you can planet bust with a PL of 15,000 which is the lowest PL Krillin can be.
Krillin hardly needs to be immune to claws to be too much for Wolverine in melee.
But lemme point out what happens when supertough people get clawed- they don't get sliced to ribbons, they get a moderate gash and keep going. Density/toughness still matters.
And I will point out DBZ characters tilt more to tougher than strength- they can punch someone of equal power dozens of times in a fight and have it not be over. They're a lot tougher than marvel characters of equal strength.
Originally posted by Q99
Krillin hardly needs to be immune to claws to be too much for Wolverine in melee.But lemme point out what happens when supertough people get clawed- they don't get sliced to ribbons, they get a moderate gash and keep going. Density/toughness still matters.
And I will point out DBZ characters tilt more to tougher than strength- they can punch someone of equal power dozens of times in a fight and have it not be over. They're a lot tougher than marvel characters of equal strength.
But he's not super tough. No one can prove he has what it takes to get slashed and not be mortally wounded on the spot.
Originally posted by Damborgson
But he's not super tough.
Oh yes he is! He's been in many fights and fought some incredibly strong foes, taking plenty of hits from them.
Everyone with high chi is clearly superhumanly tough.
No one can prove he has what it takes to get slashed and not be mortally wounded on the spot.
Wolverine's hit foes below Marvel class 100 toughness who haven't gone down.
Also, you seem to be focusing entirely on the toughness part, under the odd assumption that Wolverine is going to score hits, and hits to vital areas at that, rather than wiffing or maybe getting some glancing scratches.
Krillin's not going to just stand there and ask Wolverine to stab him in the chest.
Lol it's 18,000 and so what?
Last recorded power of his is 75,000, and that's not his max.
And 'so what' is 18,000 puts him 2,000 above the lowest planet-bust feat.
Originally posted by Falcon Man
Now, do you mean 100-200 thousand or just 100-200? Cause if that was true Chiaotzu would be a planet-buster, which is not true.Power levels were really wonky, and that's probably why Toriyama dropped them all together in the Buu and Cell sagas.
Just 100-200.
Roshi destroyed the moon at that power-level. 🙂
And, yes, I will say that Chiaotzu could definitely destroy a planet...as well as any "Z warrior" before the Saiyan saga.
Originally posted by juggerman
18,000 was the smallest stated PL able to bust a planet iirc.
It was not stated anywhere in canon. That idea of yours comes from "filler" anime episode where Vegeta destroys some planet before he and Napa come to earth. It doesn't occur in the manga. His power level is at 18,000 when he comes to earth: hence the idea that it requires 18,000 to destroy a planet.
Clearly, it does not as Roshi did it at 100-200. 🙂
To prove that that feat was not inconsistent, Piccolo did it at a PL of 300-500 with one arm instead of two like Roshi. 🙂