DCnU Wonder Woman W/O Bracelets Vs Hercules

Started by Q995 pages

*Restrained* WW seems like she's number 2 in the League.

Originally posted by Q99
Keep in mind what she was doing against Hal Jordan *with* bracers.

There is no reason to believe that her own title and JL are syncronized. All she did was to stalemate hal, her scenes were flashy but hal wasn't shown to be at any disadvantage.

When did Superman show he was more powerful then Darkseid? Sure wasnt in Justice League.

Superman was also shown to be equal or even behind OMAC as well. He's not the golden boy, anymore, and doesn't have impressive feats compared to Pre-Flashpoint Superman. I'm sure he will get there some day, but not now.

Hell, in last issue of Supergirl, Superman was surprised of how powerful Supergirl is, because she orbited the sun for a while, before she exited her ship. She might be even more formidable than Superman, because of versatility.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Superman was also shown to be equal or even behind OMAC as well. He's not the golden boy, anymore, and doesn't have impressive feats compared to Pre-Flashpoint Superman. I'm sure he will get there some day, but not now.

Hell, in last issue of Supergirl, Superman was surprised of how powerful Supergirl is, because she orbited the sun for a while, before she exited her ship. She might be even more formidable than Superman, because of versatility.


Stick to making useless threads. Supergirl was beaten like a ho against the imposter superman while superman easily beat him. He's even more golden boy like in DCnU when he's the first superhero and explicitly more powerful than anybody in league. As for feats he lifted an airliner from the bottom of ocean effortlessely. Compare that to azzarello's WW who just knocked down some trees in rage and that's it.
Originally posted by -K-M-
When did Superman show he was more powerful then Darkseid? Sure wasnt in Justice League.

Not more powerful than darkseid. More powerful than other league members.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Stick to making useless threads. Supergirl was beaten like a ho against the imposter superman while superman easily beat him. He's even more golden boy like in DCnU when he's the first superhero and explicitly more powerful than anybody in league. As for feats he lifted an airliner from the bottom of ocean effortlessely. Compare that to azzarello's WW who just knocked down some trees in rage and that's it.
Not more powerful than darkseid. More powerful than other league members.

Maybe because she doesn't have the experience in using her powers as was pointed out last issue? Doesn't change the fact that Superman has been defeated numerous times.

Originally posted by -K-M-
When did Superman show he was more powerful then Darkseid? Sure wasnt in Justice League.

He didn't.

It was a comparison in how well he did vs how well Diana did.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Superman was also shown to be equal or even behind OMAC as well. He's not the golden boy, anymore, and doesn't have impressive feats compared to Pre-Flashpoint Superman. I'm sure he will get there some day, but not now.

Hell, in last issue of Supergirl, Superman was surprised of how powerful Supergirl is, because she orbited the sun for a while, before she exited her ship. She might be even more formidable than Superman, because of versatility.

Actually, Superman is more of a golden boy than he's been in the last half-decade.

I'm just talking DCnU. He doesn't seem unbeatable to me and his record shows it.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Maybe because she doesn't have the experience in using her powers as was pointed out last issue? Doesn't change the fact that Superman has been defeated numerous times.

He palmed her strikes and beat the phuck out of her, superman beat him easily. That imposter didn't have any experience too. Doesn't matter, jurgens likes to make superman a punching bag and totally ineffectual in combat. He was the one who wrote that lobo/superman fight. He still looks better than everyone against common foes and only that matters in comparison.

Originally posted by abhilegend
There is no reason to believe that her own title and JL are syncronized. All she did was to stalemate hal, her scenes were flashy but hal wasn't shown to be at any disadvantage.

Huh? Are you arguing they're separate continuities? Or just that they're in different time-frames, which shouldn't affect the difference between restrained vs unrestrained.

Restrained WW =~ Hal

Unrestrained > Restrained

Seems pretty clear to me

Originally posted by Golgo13
I'm just talking DCnU. He doesn't seem unbeatable to me and his record shows it.

Its jurgens. Wait for lobdell.

Originally posted by abhilegend
He palmed her strikes and beat the phuck out of her, superman beat him easily. That imposter didn't have any experience too. Doesn't matter, jurgens likes to make superman a punching bag and totally ineffectual in combat. He was the one who wrote that lobo/superman fight. He still looks better than everyone against common foes and only that matters in comparison.

Did he actually fight WW one on one yet? BTW, it was Keith/Dan who did the OMAC story.

Originally posted by Q99
Huh? Are you arguing they're separate continuities? Or just that they're in different time-frames, which shouldn't affect the difference between restrained vs unrestrained.

Restrained WW =~ Hal

Unrestrained > Restrained

Seems pretty clear to me


Azzarello and johns write two different WW. They might as well be in different continuties. Azzarelo WW=/=Johns' WW and unless it's shown by johns, its just foolish to think that diana would be portrayed any higher than she is now. One thing for sure is that she wouldn't be shown as more powerful than superman.

What did Superman do to Darky that was more impressive than WW? I remember WW restraining Darkseid with lasso and stabbed him in the eye.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Azzarello and johns write two different WW. They might as well be in different continuties. Azzarelo WW=/=Johns' WW and unless it's shown by johns, its just foolish to think that diana would be portrayed any higher than she is now. One thing for sure is that she wouldn't be shown as more powerful than superman.

But they are not in different continuities. Same being.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Did he actually fight WW one on one yet? BTW, it was Keith/Dan who did the OMAC story.

Nope. Its hard to imagine that she would do any better than in DCU though. Superman still beat him though and one statement from him isn't indicative of anything when he likes to give others' props like "J'onn is most powerful guy on earth" or "Hal has more power than entire league".

Either way, we might get a WW vs Superman showdown.

Originally posted by Golgo13
What did Superman do to Darky that was more impressive than WW? I remember WW restraining Darkseid with lasso and stabbed him in the eye.


You can't be serious! Though I take that back considering who I'm talking with. Darkseid was choking her with one hand, superman woke up from torture and went up against him alone.
Originally posted by Golgo13
But they are not in different continuities. Same being.

You missed the point, though not surprising. Both write different takes on WW and unless its shown in JL its not true with johns' WW. I doubt he took azzarello's copy of WW 12 one month in advance and wrote that scene taking in account that WW would be more powerful without bracers.

Originally posted by Golgo13
I'm just talking DCnU. He doesn't seem unbeatable to me and his record shows it.

i was talking about DCNU also.

His record has been fine, so far.

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Guys, keep it civil.

Originally posted by -Pr-
i was talking about DCNU also.

His record has been fine, so far.

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Guys, keep it civil.

You think struggling with OMAC is fine?