Originally posted by ODGIm getting bored of going in circles now.
And a foot away from where his chest ends. Unless we're circling back to the Thanos grows 33DDD breasts for a single panel theory again. Don't be obtuse. You insisted on reminding me of instances of 360 globe spheres. You invited the reminder that his shields have not always been 360 degree globe spheres. And the splashing elliptical effect is circular in nature also.I don't see where I am pretending that three on-panel characteristics we've seen with Thanos' shields cannot possibly be present here at the same time. You don't want to consider the possibility and how it makes sense, much less arising on-panel, constructive discourse is impossible. You just refuse it. And it's obvious (and rather pitiful) why.
show some proof of a shield present,mentioned at all or even destroyed to back up your strawman argument, because everything you have said is speculation.
Originally posted by ODG
I did not claim it was only a few inches away from his body against Odin. It's why I've been mocking you with the idea that he suddenly grew 33DDD breasts. The blast extends well beyond his chest. At least a whole foot: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/263/warlock2520.jpg/And the forcefield against PG Thor did not cover him 360 degrees globe. You can keep trying to move the goalposts, but you're losing sight of what you're originally arguing while trying to gloss over the facts we do agree on: Thanos' shields have been invisible, Thanos' shields have not always been a perfect globe, Thanos' shields have extended just beyond his body. I see no reason to exclude the possibility that here: his shields are invisible, are not a perfect globe and extend just beyond his body.
And that's basically been the core of the issue here. This abject and unjustifiable refusal to even consider that possibility. As made evident by the last several pages, that behavior ends up causing debate to go circular. You don't want to consider the possibility and how it makes sense, much less arising on-panel, constructive discourse is impossible. You just refuse it. /shrug
I think he had shileds up. It was my first thought, and I don't see anything to suggest that the blast hits Thanos, I don't see his battle armor charred, or Thanos being budged by the blast. If this was the Wasp blasting Thanos I could see how he would not require shields, and could bask in her best power shots. However this is Odin, and it makes little to no sense that thanos would not be at least budged by his blast. If this were the case Thanos should have easily defeated Odin, because he would not have needed shields or to extend himself overly on a physical level.
Oh yeah and the longer I look at the scan the more that I am convinced that the blast did not touch Thanos. Odin's blast is stopped if you look at the top of it's blast radius, which is about face height with Thanos. Thanos is not touched, and is using his shields.
Funny, because when I first saw the scene years ago, I didn't think to myself, "wow, look how Odin easily broke Thanos' shields." Not even close. A shield being in the scene didn't even cross my mind, let alone a shield being broken by Odin. Not until I came to this forums of course. Like I said before, our brains are designed to process patterns, even when there are none.
Originally posted by Stoic
Here's a hint; figure out the name of one the the members that were off to see the Wizard, the wonderful Wizard of Oz. Once you figure out the name replace the entire post with that name.
Originally posted by vince_slice
Losing your eyesight Itachi? Maybe if you stopped using your mangekyou sharingan so much, you'll be able to see it properly. 😆
Yeah, but I can't help it. It's so funny to see the neighbors try and put out Amaterasu.
Originally posted by ODG
Address me when you learn to read English. What you think are ad hominem fallacies are simply insults. I'm not trying to deconstruct your argument with insults. I'm simply insulting you as I would any troll. It's called the internet. What you think are appeal to audience fallacies is my simply reminding you that your trollspeak isn't being directed at others like Galan007 who had the same exact argument, meaning you're approaching this argument personally, rather than objectively. Nothing prevents me from pointing out how much of a resentful troll you are. And just because I have to deal with all your stupid strawmans and deflections doesn't mean I am strawmanning you or deflecting. The core of the issue is that we see an on-panel splashing elliptical effect away from Thanos' body. You're the one who wants to insist on false absolutes and Thor flying w/o Mjolnir.And all this infantile textbook projection has done is simply revealed that you've got nothing left in the can. Make a better argument. Your trolling and red herrings don't qualify.
Not only do you show your sheer stupidity but all your hypocrisy each time you post. I laid out EXACTLY why there is no shield and that proof is substantially more than a shield. I have a little test for you, which will illustrate EXACTLY how flimsy the proof is for the people saying there is a shield. Find me a post.. over two years old that talks about this fight.. and Thanos having a shield. This fight has been talk about to death for years and years on this site. I bet you won't find ONE post from anybody talking about Thanos using a shield in his fight with Odin. Yet, all these same people have read the comic and at the very least been exposed to the scans COUNTLESS TIMES. That proves beyond a shadow of a doubt, there is NO CLEAR SHIELD DRAWN. Shit, even if you found one person to peddle that theory.. you would at least have something... Clearly, not as many who saw no shield, which means the no shield side is still substantially winning the argument. But at least one would show.. a little something. I bet you can't even find that. There is no getting around that fact. 100's of people on this very site have seen the scans over and over and didn't notice or think there was a shield. Game over. Please though, continue to use fallacies over and over again and look like a hypocrite when you try and call others out on using them. I really does amuse me when I point these things out with you each and every time we have a discussion.
Originally posted by leonidas
i love this thread. 😂 i mean it's all old sh!t that has been discussed ad nauseum before, but still, this is some good stuff.... never ceases to amaze me how people can look at exactly the same picture and see something so completely and utterly different. at this point it seems pretty clear neither side is going to change their opinions though. i'd have liked to see a poll on the question of whether or not thanos has a shield against that initial blast. be funny to ask 100 people who are totally unfamilar with thanos or even comics if it looks to THEM like there is a shield up. my guess would be an overwhelming majority would say yes. history aside, sometimes if it looks and quacks like a duck...
Actually, that is the complete opposite of the results and you know it leo. If you showed poeple that scene who knew nothing about Thanos.. the majority would say there was no shield. A BIG PART of the reason people even believe there was a shield to begin with.. is because they know Thanos has shields.. and he's used invisible shields before... granted none that looked like that.. and NEVER have they not been mentioned.. but still.. That is a big part of the pro shield argument. If they didn't know Thanos.. most would certainly say no shield... Just like I posted above.. the ULTIMATE proof of that.. is that NOBODY for years and years of talking about that scene and viewing the scans or reading the comments.. EVER.. EVER talked about Thanos using a shield. Ever. This has only been brought up within the last year. How then, could something be so "clear" I laugh just saying clear.. but how could it be so clear.. yet NOBODY picked up on it for years and years and years on this site? That proves beyond a shadow of a doubt it's not clear, and this is with people who know thanos and how he has shields.. which makes it look even worse.
So now we have.. pro shields.. Major proof... IS.. wait for it....
Unclear artwork, and very unclear artwork at that AND Thanos uses shields and he's not dumb. That is it.. Really.. and this is somehow suppose to be convincing... Sorry it's not leo
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Actually, that is the complete opposite of the results and you know it leo. If you showed poeple that scene who knew nothing about Thanos.. the majority would say there was no shield. A BIG PART of the reason people even believe there was a shield to begin with.. is because they know Thanos has shields.. and he's used invisible shields before... granted none that looked like that.. and NEVER have they not been mentioned.. but still.. That is a big part of the pro shield argument. If they didn't know Thanos.. most would certainly say no shield... Just like I posted above.. the ULTIMATE proof of that.. is that NOBODY for years and years of talking about that scene and viewing the scans or reading the comments.. EVER.. EVER talked about Thanos using a shield. Ever. This has only been brought up within the last year. How then, could something be so "clear" I laugh just saying clear.. but how could it be so clear.. yet NOBODY picked up on it for years and years and years on this site? That proves beyond a shadow of a doubt it's not clear, and this is with people who know thanos and how he has shields.. which makes it look even worse.So now we have.. pro shields.. Major proof... IS.. wait for it....
Unclear artwork, and very unclear artwork at that AND Thanos uses shields and he's not dumb. That is it.. Really.. and this is somehow suppose to be convincing... Sorry it's not leo
you honestly believe that people would look at that scene (random people i said, who know nothing about comics) and would think the blast HIT him, and not something in front of him? i'll disagree there. i don't think the art is all that unclear tbh. one thing is clear though--neither side is changing their stance. wish there was some way to test the idea. anyway, nowhere to go from here, so....yeah.
Originally posted by leonidas
you honestly believe that people would look at that scene (random people i said, who know nothing about comics) and would think the blast HIT him, and not something in front of him? i'll disagree there. i don't think the art is all that unclear tbh. one thing is clear though--neither side is changing their stance. wish there was some way to test the idea. anyway, nowhere to go from here, so....yeah.
Buddy, as I said.. the ultimate proof in how UNCLEAR the artwork is... is that NOBODY picked up on this "shield" for how many years on this site. Find me a post mentioning thanos using a shield 2 years ago.. 3 years ago.. 5 years ago.. You won't find it. These are SEASONED comic book readers who have read the comic and seen the scans countless times. Shit, the fight itself has been discussed ad naseum and yet no mention. You don't think that shows and proves it's NOT clear? I mean honestly, if it was so clear.. it would've been talked about for years and years now and be seen as a fact. Yet it wasn't and hasn't been viewed as such. Yet, people are going to argue it's clear.. lol.. come on man.
Originally posted by leonidas
you honestly believe that people would look at that scene (random people i said, who know nothing about comics) and would think the blast HIT him, and not something in front of him? i'll disagree there. i don't think the art is all that unclear tbh. one thing is clear though--neither side is changing their stance. wish there was some way to test the idea. anyway, nowhere to go from here, so....yeah.
I agree with this. It's clearly a DRAWN shield in that scene. As clear as day. Some people are in denial but me seeing a circle in front of Thanos body tells me EXACTLY what that is. I honestly can't believe there is an argument with this since again, the shield is right there in front of your face...a big circle around Thanos body while Odin is blasting. W.I.T.H (what in the hell).
