Vampire vs Sith

Started by juggerman4 pages

and the "force speed" they displayed was not on the level of the "vamp speed" Russel, Edward, and Black Hat use

Correct, but when combined with Force Reflexes and Battle Precog, it will be fast enough to raise a lightsabre as a vampire closes in for a kill. Lightsabre > Vampires heads and hands.

Just because they know what's coming doesn't mean they could do anything about it. Russel's and Black Hat's speed are so far above these guys that they could probably write a letter a week in advance telling in great detail exactly what they are going do and Sidious and Dooku would still be completely obliterated.

Cullen isn't as fast but is still fast enough to make Skywalker's precog useless especially with his own mind reading abilities.

Blade is nowhere near as fast as these guy imo but his advantage comes from his weapons. If he had to fight up close Maul would (American History X prison shower scene) him

Can't really speak to the other one since i haven't seen that Dracula

Nope.

Cullen's the fastest one here.

Blade wins with gun, yes.

I disagree. Russel is rediculously fast and can fly. Other old fast vamps can't track him let alone defend against him and it's been shown numerous times.

And fighting speed Cullen doesn't have much. He's probably faster than BH in a foot race but not so much in combat. The Wolves had no trouble keeping up with any of the Twightlight vamps including Edward iirc and Edward being the fastest one he really isn't too much faster than the others. They can still see him and react to him when he moves

Atleast we agree on something

Originally posted by juggerman

Atleast we agree on something

Indeed, which means you're only about 66.66% wrong.

Originally posted by Robtard
Correct, but when combined with Force Reflexes and Battle Precog, it will be fast enough to raise a lightsabre as a vampire closes in for a kill. Lightsabre > Vampires heads and hands.
Remember when Palpatine slowly raised his hands to zap Yoda with force lightning. What awesome precog. What about when Obi begged Anakin not to jump at him because he had the high ground. This precog never fails.

Russell slaughters him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Remember when Palpatine slowly raised his hands to zap Yoda with force lightning. What awesome precog. What about when Obi begged Anakin not to jump at him because he had the high ground. This precog never fails.

Russell slaughters him.

Listen, I do realize that your TB fanboyism is clouding your mind, but stop going by lowest showings only for the guy you want to see lose. Good, glad that's settled.

Russell dies.

Originally posted by Robtard
Listen, I do realize that your TB fanboyism is clouding your mind, but stop going by lowest showings only for the guy you want to see lose. Good, glad that's settled.

Russell dies.

Based on what does Russell die ? We see him react far faster than anything Palpatine has done on screen. Russell is also far stronger than anyone Palpatine has fought by about a country mile.

Force lightning has never killed anyone directly either. So if you expect it to kill a vampire who is 3,000 years old while Luke can walk away from prolonged exposure to it then you're just being a star wars fanboy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Based on what does Russell die ? We see him react far faster than anything Palpatine has done on screen. Russell is also far stronger than anyone Palpatine has fought by about a country mile.

Force lightning has never killed anyone directly either. So if you expect it to kill a vampire who is 3,000 years old while Luke can walk away from prolonged exposure to it then you're just being a star wars fanboy.

Based on what I said before, I'm not repeating myself due to your laziness. Who cares about physical strength in this match, Palpatine has a lightsabre, he's not arm wrestling Russel with it.

Force lightning, lol, this guy. See above.

I have no idea who Russell or Black hat are but the Cullens got tagged more than once by warewolves. They're not that fast.

Also, True Blood is gay.

Originally posted by Robtard
Based on what I said before, I'm not repeating myself due to your laziness. Who cares about physical strength in this match, Palpatine has a lightsabre, he's not arm wrestling Russel with it.

Force lightning, lol, this guy. See above.

Russell is both stronger and faster. Force lightning he'd just plow through if it even hit him.

Luke probably laughed about how weak force lightning was afterwards.

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You realize Palpatine was torturing Luke, right? Not trying to kill him?
Same with Mace. He wanted him to hurt before he tossed him out a window.

The precog goes milliseconds into the future. Thats why it can't save them from everything if they make a bad decision. However, they react in that time.

Originally posted by Pwned
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You realize Palpatine was torturing Luke, right? Not trying to kill him?
Same with Mace. He wanted him to hurt before he tossed him out a window.

The precog goes milliseconds into the future. Thats why it can't save them from everything if they make a bad decision. However, they react in that time.

Yes, and I also realize he said he was going to kill him and still failed to do so in more than a reasonable amount of time to be considered fast. Palp went off on Windu and it still didn't kill him.

Russell could probably laugh off this pathetic attack due to his strength.

Precog is nowhere near as fast as Russell is. Russell can disarm people fifty feet away before they even know what's happening. He's too fast. He'd maul Palpatine.

Now your just being stupid.

Failed to kill him shortly? He was TORTURING him. He was slowly killing him, causing as much pain as possible.

Went off on him? Same deal. He was trying to punish him by causing his last moments to be as painful as possible. This is a majorly sadistic guy.

Strength has nothing to do with it. Its like being hit by 50 tazers at once and not dying.

Precog is instantaneous. Its faster than anything. The Jedi/Sith always know whats about to happen. Does that mean they can instantly react to it? Not all the time. They still have millisecond reaction times because of the Force.

Didn't know Jedi's HAD force speed. That "feat" (was that a one-of?) at the start of the Phantom Menace would actually be comparable to vamp speed and that added to precog could turn the tables.

Another way of looking at it is to check how fast the laser beams were moving in Star Wars and compare that to vamp speed using comparable camera distances (is this even possible? lol). If the vamp speed in covering distance is = < the speed in w/c the laser beams would travel from guns to the Jedi, I think it stands to reason that the Sith (who are pretty similar to high end Jedi in abilities) would be able to skewer/slash the vamps before they would be able to tear the Jedi apart.

Googled a bit and found this little piece of info on the web.

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/05/star-wars-blaster-speed/

Apparently, according to this site, blaster bolts (based on the movie) travel at around 78 mph.

Jedi/Sith are known to be able to deflect blaster fire in multiples, it stands to reason that if vamps are far faster than that, they'd be able to cover the distance and rip the Sith apart. If not, then it stands to reason that the additional reach given to the Sith due to their lightsabers would allow them to skewer/slash the vampires right before they'd be able to tear them apart with their hands.

Jedi/Sith are faster than this?

YouTube video

Indeed, which means you're only about 66.66% wrong.

This actually made me laugh.

But no the Sith's reflexes mean nothing to Russel and Black Hat. Russel was able to decapitate an extremely old vampire before the vamp knew what was going on. He was able to get up off of the floor, turn around, disarmed a 2000+ year old vampire, and pin him down before he even knew what was happening.

And i stress that he was 2000+ years old since in True Blood the older you are the more powerful you become which includes speed. Even Jessica, a vampire about a year or two old, is much faster than anything Palpy has shown in the movies. And she moves like a slug compared to Russel

Sidious can precog all he wants it won't help him. He'll just see Russel ripping out his heart twice

Originally posted by Pwned
Now your just being stupid.

Failed to kill him shortly? He was [B]TORTURING him. He was slowly killing him, causing as much pain as possible.

Went off on him? Same deal. He was trying to punish him by causing his last moments to be as painful as possible. This is a majorly sadistic guy.

Strength has nothing to do with it. Its like being hit by 50 tazers at once and not dying.

Precog is instantaneous. Its faster than anything. The Jedi/Sith always know whats about to happen. Does that mean they can instantly react to it? Not all the time. They still have millisecond reaction times because of the Force. [/B]

He said and now you die. After he tortured him he was trying to kill him to which Luke casually walked away from. I've seen more damage from a concussion than what Luke endured.

You're making things up. He tried to kill Windu the entire time. He didn't hold back and never killed anyone yet you expect me to believe it can even halt someone with Russell's strength let alone even hit.

Precog didn't save Yoda from Palp's slow hand raise force lightning blast. Face it Russell is faster and kills him.

Admit defeat.

I have watched True Blood since the beginning..

Sith die... the end