Originally posted by Golgo13
Wasn't Ivy growing more powerful and in-tuned with the Green? It's not really crap writing when she was getting a push.
Using an extremely high end feat for Ivy (ie. manipulating stomach bacteria ala Swamp Thing) on a herald being such as a Green Lantern, whose auto-shields somehow fail to stop it to argue her beating Johnny is a forum fight is a stretch at the least and is giving Ivy an absurd amount of credit while giving Johnny very little.
There's no way Ivy can beat Johnny in a random encounter in a neutral environment. She'll need plot and/or prep to do so. Don't see how it's even arguable.
Originally posted by Golgo13
She was also destroying buildings with her plants with ease. And how would the auto shields protect a GL's insides? Has it even been shown block such an attack like Ivy's?
Auto shields block against forces such as intense radiation and the dangers of whacky space travel. Makes next to no sense that Ivy's "stomach flu" can get pass a Lantern's auto-shields, let alone a conscious defense, when they've stopped far more drastic threats to a human body.
Destroying buildings is great - Johnny can do that, too, and far faster than she can but okay - but she'll need plants to do that. And that assumes she can manipulate local plant life faster than Johnny can burn them. And also assuming there will be local plant life to assist her to begin with.
She's not winning a quick draw with Johnny, especially if he wants to win. He doesn't even need to kill her to do so.
I can appreciate trying to come up with crazy and unlikely methods of winning for the underdog, but let's be real here about Pam's chances.
Originally posted by Golgo13
If it happened in a comic, she could definitely win. Plants would be coming from all sides and he'd have no chance unless he goes nova. That's assuming she's powered up, Pre-Flashpoint and can affect Johnny through the inside.,
Which is assuming a lot on her behalf and assuming Johnny is functionally retarded, which isn't true.
All he'd have to do is omni-directionally burn and fly around and he's killing loads of plants in record time, which is going to do wonders for Pam's psyche.
You're right in the sense that she could win in a comic where PIS and plot rule the story.
Originally posted by Golgo13
How often does Johnny burn people alive? I honestly don't follow HT.
He doesn't have to actually fry someone to beat them.
Non-lethally, or even without causing major harm, Johnny can throw fireballs that detonate with just enough kinetic force to send people flying like a low level grenade. Or burn hot enough to cause them to pass out due to heat exhaustion or deprived oxygen.
Originally posted by ColossusGrundy
I seriously think Johnny's own aura of heat would incinerate the pheromones she puts out before they could even make it to his nose.The only chance she has is if she can somehow trick him to flame off and seduce him then.
Johnny's a player, but I don't think he'll be played.... Torchy burns her up.
This, even if you say ivy disguised herself into a normal girl, johnny would still play it safe, and besides if he notices something strange he can just fire up and burn the pheromones